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Kitty Terminal 0.40.0 introduces the Text Sizing Protocol: "multiple font sizes ... in a backwards compatible, opt-in way"

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  • zangoose@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

    Kitty has multiplexing built in so it can also replace a lot of what tmux does (unless you're using tmux over ssh)

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    That exception is my primary use case for tmux, so that explains it.

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    • juipeltje@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

      I like it mainly because of the image protocol and supporting both x11 and wayland. I still have alacritty installed as well because i like how damn fast it is. If alacritty had proper image support i'd probably only be using alacritty, but they are both great terminal emulators.

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      Images in the terminal? At that point you're just reinventing the GUI.

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        As a non-user of kitty, why did it make you drop tmux? Don't they do different jobs?

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        Tmux has probably some specific features Kitty won't do as good as a native multiplexer? (sorry I'm not the right person to ask this question :s) but It has the features I'm looking for without the need to install one.

        It was quite cumbersome to configure a terminal + a multiplexer on MacOS to behave how I liked it. Kitty solved this issue while being fast, simple and a lot of customization in one single app.

        One feature that was really important, copy/past over SSH with Micro which involved quite a hacky thing with iTerm2 + Tmux.Also being able to split my windows, create tabs...

        But as I said I have only basic use cases and can't really say If Kitty's multiplexing features are on par with Tmux. However, during my web search I read about a lot of people far more knowledge than myself who actually switch to kitty from Tmux without regrets !

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          https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/issues/8226 shows an example of rendered text.

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          This is cool! I'm almost more interested in the underline gaps for descenders that got snuck in as a "oh yeah I did this too" feature. That makes underlined text so much easier to read, IMO.

          ![underlined text example] (https://private-user-images.githubusercontent.com/1308621/404493223-f186394b-dee8-474e-8816-c68049114d4e.png?jwt=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.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.CW0O6rrvU08O_7UxmmDYQp7wgfo6YgiXUWTdzawuPJE)

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            Goyal goated as always

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              Goyal goated as always

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              Kovid GOATal

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                Images in the terminal? At that point you're just reinventing the GUI.

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                It's very convenient for terminal based file managers. I use it to preview my wallpapers images and then i use a keybind to set it as the wallpaper for my window manager. I also recently started using rmpc, an mpd client that can display album art.

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                  https://github.com/kovidgoyal/kitty/issues/8226 shows an example of rendered text.

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                  Interesting, that's the guy that develops calibre as well

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                    Images in the terminal? At that point you're just reinventing the GUI.

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                    i mean yeah that's kinda the point? lets you have some niceties of a GUI in a terminal environment

                    like i'm not sure what your point is, how do you do terminal stuff in a full-on GUI? Is there some program i don't know of that can generate a graphical interface for any arbitrary terminal program automatically?

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                      That exception is my primary use case for tmux, so that explains it.

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                      with kitty you can open a new terminal session that sets it's cwd to the remote directory of the server you're ssh'd into. Honestly the only thing I can think of that termux can do that kitty can't is saving sessions

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                        ok, that's it, I'm donating monthly

                        https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/support/

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                        • juipeltje@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                          I like it mainly because of the image protocol and supporting both x11 and wayland. I still have alacritty installed as well because i like how damn fast it is. If alacritty had proper image support i'd probably only be using alacritty, but they are both great terminal emulators.

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                          I recently switched from alacritty to ghostty as I wanted image support as ghostty implements the kitty protocol for it. Ghostty seems as fast as alacrity to me, but with better support. It even has a tmux type replacement, although I haven't used it as I don't need it with sway doing that for me.

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                            I'm waiting for the day when these enhanced terminals go full GUI and mouse driven.

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                              I'm waiting for the day when these enhanced terminals go full GUI and mouse driven.

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                              Wait, are we moving on from vim vs emacs?

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                                That exception is my primary use case for tmux, so that explains it.

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                                Kitty can do multiplexing over ssh as well. If you have kitty installed on the remote, you can use Kitty's builtin ssh wrapper and get a lot of useful features.

                                https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/kittens/ssh/#opt-kitten-ssh.forward_remote_control

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                                  Glad to hear about the "opt in".

                                  Partially blind guy here who struggles to use computers these days because EVERYTHING IS FREAKING TEENY TINY TEXT YOU CAN'T CHANGE ESPECIALLY MOBILE AAAAAH IT HURTS.

                                  Ahem.

                                  Yes I'm a bit bitter 🙂

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                                    Kitty can do multiplexing over ssh as well. If you have kitty installed on the remote, you can use Kitty's builtin ssh wrapper and get a lot of useful features.

                                    https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/kittens/ssh/#opt-kitten-ssh.forward_remote_control

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                                    Don't tend to have a terminal emulator of any kind installed on remote boxes. They're headless.

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                                      Don't tend to have a terminal emulator of any kind installed on remote boxes. They're headless.

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                                      I generally don't either, but I do install one when using a terminal that has multiplexing. The ssh multiplexing daemon is part of the kitty binary, so it needs to be installed to work. Not really different than installing Tmux on one.

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                                        Thanks, I hate it 🙂

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                                          Glad to hear about the "opt in".

                                          Partially blind guy here who struggles to use computers these days because EVERYTHING IS FREAKING TEENY TINY TEXT YOU CAN'T CHANGE ESPECIALLY MOBILE AAAAAH IT HURTS.

                                          Ahem.

                                          Yes I'm a bit bitter 🙂

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                                          Dude. Reading package labels is the same for me. I end up having to take a picture with my phone, then zooming in.

                                          I have my PC screen size zoomed in to 125%.

                                          Getting old sucks.

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