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Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account

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  • reygle@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

    Been there. Accepted

    To answer your questions though, I suggest the non-Cosmic version of Pop!OS. (and switch to wayland if it's not the default yet- not sure, I've had this install for YEARS) It's a good blend of "just works" and "up to date enough" to run anything, and I recommend steering well clear of Arch. I've been using Linux for a decade and I've always found a way to whoopsie it into a broken state. That's a "me problem" yes, but if I can fudge it up that easily and I have experience using it, I think it's unsuitable to recommend to anyone.

    Most people live in a web browser- does it really matter if the desktop environment isn't riced enough or isn't windows-ey enough?
    That said, it takes actual hackery to make any version of Windows usable these days, so I'll forgive a distro not being "absolutely elite" for someone's preferences. Let's not compare Linux forums to Windows forums, where no-one has ever, I repeat ever received ANY useful advice besides reinstalling their Windows, am I right?

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    Lol, touche. Unless you include how to "unbreak" every single windows update, but even those resources are growing ever more seldom. Thanks for the explanation. I think I remember hearing about pop during the great steam Linux supportathon a few years back. I held off since the video card support wasn't quite ironed out of something like that and haven't checked back.

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      Hi another recent Linux adopter jumping in on a "fuck windows" thread.

      Seriously, it's not hard to shift. If you're use to macOS, get Elementary. If you're used to Windows, try Mint. Your machine will probably be fine for either. Setup/testing it out is trivial.

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      What about Manjaro?

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        "Hi, I liked XY development tool having a proper GUI on Windows where can I find a non CLI..."

        "LEARN TO USE NEOVIM!"

        "LEARN TO USE GDB!"

        "DO EVERYTHING FROM THE COMMAND LINE!"

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          What about Manjaro?

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          #185

          What about EndeavourOS?

          What about Arch?

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          • L [email protected]

            Hi another recent Linux adopter jumping in on a "fuck windows" thread.

            Seriously, it's not hard to shift. If you're use to macOS, get Elementary. If you're used to Windows, try Mint. Your machine will probably be fine for either. Setup/testing it out is trivial.

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            Does the dualboot of Mint cause any issues for Windows? I only tested it very briefly on somebody elses machines where I needed to wipe windows and install Linux

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            • mat@linux.communityM [email protected]

              What games keep you on Windows? Besides a few anticheat-enabled ones which choose not to support it, basically everything works fine. I game (and work in gamedev!) 100% on Linux.

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              Over like half of the games I play with friends just do not work Linux because of anti-cheat. I hate it. I also can't use it for work or studies since I need access to a good CAD that just works. These 2 things and a proper Adrenaline software from AMD is all I need to fully switch to Linux. I do have a dual-boot Windows/Linux PC at home, but honestly, I can barely use Linux most of the time.

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                Hi another recent Linux adopter jumping in on a "fuck windows" thread.

                Seriously, it's not hard to shift. If you're use to macOS, get Elementary. If you're used to Windows, try Mint. Your machine will probably be fine for either. Setup/testing it out is trivial.

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                I'm a long time Linux user going back to the linux 1 kernel days. The only reason I still use Windows on my home PC is for gaming. I know Linux has come a long way thanks to many contributors like Valve, but how stable are the AMD video drivers and how well does it work for playing AAA PC games? The last time I built a new PC (2023) I tried running Linux w/ Windows in a KVM virtual machine and direct GPU passthrough, but that was such a nightmare to get set up and working, I just wiped it and installed Windows 11. I game on it and run Hyper-V VMs for Linux, which works quite well actually but feels like a sin.

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                  I'm a long time Linux user going back to the linux 1 kernel days. The only reason I still use Windows on my home PC is for gaming. I know Linux has come a long way thanks to many contributors like Valve, but how stable are the AMD video drivers and how well does it work for playing AAA PC games? The last time I built a new PC (2023) I tried running Linux w/ Windows in a KVM virtual machine and direct GPU passthrough, but that was such a nightmare to get set up and working, I just wiped it and installed Windows 11. I game on it and run Hyper-V VMs for Linux, which works quite well actually but feels like a sin.

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                  I’m team red with a Linux distro for my new computer I’m building so I’ll report back ha

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                  • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                    Most people just use the online office 365 thing.

                    What issues did you have with LibreOffice? I didn't spot any problems when I used it

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                    Depends on what you do with it. In accountancy we and most of our clients work with Microsoft Office desktop. Also things like templates based on CRM work better with actual Word.

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                      Over like half of the games I play with friends just do not work Linux because of anti-cheat. I hate it. I also can't use it for work or studies since I need access to a good CAD that just works. These 2 things and a proper Adrenaline software from AMD is all I need to fully switch to Linux. I do have a dual-boot Windows/Linux PC at home, but honestly, I can barely use Linux most of the time.

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                      Ouch, that sucks yeah. Guess I got lucky with the games my friends like to play. Only one is I guess Valorant, but I don't engage with that one anyways. Guess you're stuck on the dual boot until devs of these games start ticking the Proton support box 😛

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                        Bill Gates doesn't run Microsoft anymore. He's not the CEO and largely not responsible for the change in their business model.

                        Also, I game on Linux more than I do on windows (though I do have a partition in my drive to run windows for games I couldn't get working on steam OS/ Bazzite. It's literally 4 games out of over 100.

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                        I'm making fun of the juxtaposition of people that express frustration/animosity for Windows with the need to stay on Windows in order to consume cutting edge video games.

                        It gets to be comical. Something about the "height" difference. Like you have the giant "They're taking away my ownership of my data and my very computer!" standing next to little old "But I like my raytracing."

                        "My data is being exposed in the name of corporate AI!" next to "But I can't play games with anticheat with my friends." It's funny. I'm going to laugh.

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                          I'm a long time Linux user going back to the linux 1 kernel days. The only reason I still use Windows on my home PC is for gaming. I know Linux has come a long way thanks to many contributors like Valve, but how stable are the AMD video drivers and how well does it work for playing AAA PC games? The last time I built a new PC (2023) I tried running Linux w/ Windows in a KVM virtual machine and direct GPU passthrough, but that was such a nightmare to get set up and working, I just wiped it and installed Windows 11. I game on it and run Hyper-V VMs for Linux, which works quite well actually but feels like a sin.

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                          I have a very extensive steam, gog, and battle.net library with all kinda of games from wolfenstein 3D to Baulders Gate 3. The only game I haven't been able to run is Ground Control 2, but that doesn't work on windows 10 (possible a USB device issue). Unless you play a game with an anti cheat that explicitly deny Linux (the only one I know off the top of my head that does that is Fortnite) you are most likely good to go. I'm quite a performance/fps snobb, and I haven't found any game that runs worse on Linux either.

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                            I have a very extensive steam, gog, and battle.net library with all kinda of games from wolfenstein 3D to Baulders Gate 3. The only game I haven't been able to run is Ground Control 2, but that doesn't work on windows 10 (possible a USB device issue). Unless you play a game with an anti cheat that explicitly deny Linux (the only one I know off the top of my head that does that is Fortnite) you are most likely good to go. I'm quite a performance/fps snobb, and I haven't found any game that runs worse on Linux either.

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                            I play the DMZ mode of Call of Duty a lot. Heard of any issues there?

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                              I play the DMZ mode of Call of Duty a lot. Heard of any issues there?

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                              Looks like Warzone is one of the unfortunate ones, the kernel level anti cheat currently stops it from working on Linux.

                              Reka (added to my wishlist 😄) seems to run well. If it will run straight out the box or not seems to be a little hit and miss. You can check any troubleshooting steps on protondb. This shows Linux isn't quite at the "it just works" stage. But for this title if you do run into an issue it seems like an easy fix.

                              Cyberpunk runs really well. I haven't had to tweak anything for my install.

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                                Looks like Warzone is one of the unfortunate ones, the kernel level anti cheat currently stops it from working on Linux.

                                Reka (added to my wishlist 😄) seems to run well. If it will run straight out the box or not seems to be a little hit and miss. You can check any troubleshooting steps on protondb. This shows Linux isn't quite at the "it just works" stage. But for this title if you do run into an issue it seems like an easy fix.

                                Cyberpunk runs really well. I haven't had to tweak anything for my install.

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                                Thanks! I appreciate the info. protondb bookmarked!

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                                  So out of curiosity, why Mint over, say Debian? Has Debian added telemetry etc as well?

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                                  It's just a comparable GUI surface.

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