Google Chrome disables uBlock Origin for some in Manifest v3 rollout
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What issues do people even have with firefox? Its a browser, it seems fast enough. Isn't that all most people need from a browser
Mainly that Google intentionally makes its sites (like YouTube or Google Docs) slower and less useable when they detect you're using Firefox, and/or ad blockers (which you need Firefox to use, so same difference).
It's mostly fixable with add-ons and userscripts (and eventually, one hopes, with an antitrust lawsuit), but it's still a hassle.
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Do you have a good non chromium based alternative? To be clear I genuinely am asking those things make switching probably worth it considering how little of a hassle it is.
Sadly not, I'd also be interested in one!
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Sadly not, I'd also be interested in one!
isn't chromium under the Linux foundation now? Might look at the options on that side.
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Whats the advantage of Waterfox over librewolf?
Better defaults for the average user who isn’t looking for maximum privacy
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Better defaults for the average user who isn’t looking for maximum privacy
fair enough makes sense. LibreWolf is real strict about it.
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isn't chromium under the Linux foundation now? Might look at the options on that side.
No, it's still 100% owned and 100% controlled by Google.
The Linux Foundation is just making it easier for people outside of Google to submit work to it.
Cynically, you could say that Google is just trying to get free contributions while retaining all the control. Optimistically you could say this is the first step in Google giving up control of Chromium in the far future, although currently they've given zero verbal or written indicators that they plan to do that.
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go to brave, chrome has been pretty anti-adblock for a while. chromium might have a problem since it uses chrome store for extensions.
Brave is just Chrome with added crypto and homophobia
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I just use a Firefox derivative there as well, because of Ublock. Tried Vanadium but the adblocking was just not good.
Which one are you using? I was looking at ironfox
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eh? no idea, never used it. these downvotes are wild to me. is waterfox bad somehow?
I don't know either. This one of those cases I wish people would elaborate, since I don't know much about waterfox so would welcome more insight into it.
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I very much dislike Mozilla's direction over the last decade. They're introducing user-hostile features that subtly break normal browsing experience, even when disabled[0]. Not like Google is better, but I'm also trying to get away from Mozilla.
[0] On Firefox Mobile, there's a "feature" which makes the address bar auto-complete domains of companies paying Mozilla. I noticed this with Netflix - I never visit, but when I start writing a URL with n, roughly every 10th time Netflix was suggested. You can disable this feature, but this doesn't actually disable it. The address bar no longer auto-completes with Netflix, instead it just doesn't autocomplete! So 9/10 times I can write n and press Enter, but 1/10 times I press n and search for the letter n.
Mozilla doesn't care whether they break features, as long as they can make more money. I strongly dislike this approach by the supposedly "good" browser manufacturer.
Download fennec it's the fork of ff mobile with less of the cruft.
I don't know if it has fixed that specific problem, but I can't recall seeing it
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Do you have a good non chromium based alternative? To be clear I genuinely am asking those things make switching probably worth it considering how little of a hassle it is.
GNOME Web if on Linux
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Download fennec it's the fork of ff mobile with less of the cruft.
I don't know if it has fixed that specific problem, but I can't recall seeing it
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll give it a try!
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Firefox-based https://zen-browser.app/ if you want to get fancy
Thanks for this!! I became spoiled with Arc’s UI, but it’s a Chrome based browser. This looks like it’s the same experience without the bs.
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I don't know either. This one of those cases I wish people would elaborate, since I don't know much about waterfox so would welcome more insight into it.
in the early days, waterfox was simply a fork of firefox that provided 64bit support when the official builds didn’t. since then i’ve kept using it since it seems like firefox with better default settings for me. between 2019 and 2023 waterfox was owned by an advertising agency although they exerted no control over the software as far as i can tell, and everything remained open source. maybe some peoples info is outdated and they don’t know that the partnership ended 2 years ago. sorry for bad formatting i’m on mobile.
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LibreWolf if you want security, privacy and freedom
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go to brave, chrome has been pretty anti-adblock for a while. chromium might have a problem since it uses chrome store for extensions.
Brave has investments from A16Z, a VC fund that has been involved in multiple pump and dumps and shoes founders are fundamentally opposed to democracy and human rights.
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What issues do people even have with firefox? Its a browser, it seems fast enough. Isn't that all most people need from a browser
Some js is a bit slower. I typically use chrome for self hosted apps, jupyter etc.
I think wasm performance is actually better in Firefox though.
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I very much dislike Mozilla's direction over the last decade. They're introducing user-hostile features that subtly break normal browsing experience, even when disabled[0]. Not like Google is better, but I'm also trying to get away from Mozilla.
[0] On Firefox Mobile, there's a "feature" which makes the address bar auto-complete domains of companies paying Mozilla. I noticed this with Netflix - I never visit, but when I start writing a URL with n, roughly every 10th time Netflix was suggested. You can disable this feature, but this doesn't actually disable it. The address bar no longer auto-completes with Netflix, instead it just doesn't autocomplete! So 9/10 times I can write n and press Enter, but 1/10 times I press n and search for the letter n.
Mozilla doesn't care whether they break features, as long as they can make more money. I strongly dislike this approach by the supposedly "good" browser manufacturer.
Also, I don't think one can export bookmarks from Android Firefox either.
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Download fennec it's the fork of ff mobile with less of the cruft.
I don't know if it has fixed that specific problem, but I can't recall seeing it
See also Mull, No 120hz though.
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Mainly that Google intentionally makes its sites (like YouTube or Google Docs) slower and less useable when they detect you're using Firefox, and/or ad blockers (which you need Firefox to use, so same difference).
It's mostly fixable with add-ons and userscripts (and eventually, one hopes, with an antitrust lawsuit), but it's still a hassle.
how do I find out more about this and what scripts do I need to make the sites faster again on Firefox
