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  • kugel7c@feddit.orgK [email protected]

    Idk in our university lecture halls we had HH:MM.sss digital clocks and it's obviously superior for exams because you can just compare the numbers instead of translating and then comparing the numbers. And I'm pretty sure that's why they were digital, because it's easier to quickly compare.

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    The point wasn't about which is easier but that many really can't read an analog clock. And that's really sad.

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      Nope. They don't know how to use the clock. The one widely used.

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      Not the one widely used, but they do know how to use the clock. And they're not really that much more used than digital clocks. Therefore, it doesn't matter

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        What makes people who didn't learn to read analog clocks idiots? If you have a thing about analog clocks, just keep it to yourself.

        it may be because you fit the category

        Or maybe because it's just stupid af to judge people's intelligence based on an unrelated life skill.

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        What makes people who didn't learn to read analog clocks idiots?

        Wrong question. The correct would be: what make people who are too lazy or too stupid to learn the clock idiots - but that would be a rhetorical one.

        it's just stupid af to judge people's intelligence based on an unrelated life skill.

        Intelligence is an ability to obtain knowledge and skills. If someone lacks both, it is a strong indication of them not having enough intelligence to obtain them.

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          Its because they rarely get practice with it.

          I would argue that a lot of what I learned in school didn't have much opportunity to practice outside of school, but I agree that analog clocks are not a learning priority.

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          Most of the things that I was taught that I don't get practice with I do not remember how to do it anymore. Now I do have ADHD so that definitely does not help.

          However I will say I do think in some cases learning how to do things you wont necessarily need outside of school can be useful as it can teach you other helpful things subconsciously. There are certain supporting skills that are developed when you learn those things that can be used in other contexts. Are there more effective ways to learn those supporting skills besides teaching things most people likely wont use again? Probably, but I don't really have an answer for what

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            It’s only happened twice, but I’ve run into kids who couldn’t read an analog clock. You know what I did?

            I taught them. It took, like, 30 seconds. I know it took 30 seconds because I was wearing a goddamn watch.

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            Still can't understand how any kid cannot do it. Isn't that something you learn from your parents before you even go to school

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              It's not really widely used anymore.

              Alphabets can't be replaced by something easier and more convenient. But clocks can be

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              It's not really widely used anymore.

              Absolute and utter rubbish. Now go to the first high street shop with watches and try again.

              But clocks can be

              Your point is?

              Maps can be easy replace with a GPS. Ability to read maps is still (and should be) on the curriculum.

              Calculator has replaced the need to add, multiply and divide, yet we still ask children to learn these skills.

              Go figure 🙄

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                Snopes article about this from 2018 stating it’s mostly false.

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                Well who would ever disagree with a Snopes article

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                  Not the one widely used, but they do know how to use the clock. And they're not really that much more used than digital clocks. Therefore, it doesn't matter

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                  Would it matter to you if they didn't know how to add and multiply without calculator?

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                    What makes people who didn't learn to read analog clocks idiots?

                    Wrong question. The correct would be: what make people who are too lazy or too stupid to learn the clock idiots - but that would be a rhetorical one.

                    it's just stupid af to judge people's intelligence based on an unrelated life skill.

                    Intelligence is an ability to obtain knowledge and skills. If someone lacks both, it is a strong indication of them not having enough intelligence to obtain them.

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                    who are too lazy or too stupid

                    They do know how to read the clock (digital ones 🙂 ) Again, it doesn't make them idiots or lazy for not learning something they don't really need to learn

                    Intelligence is an ability to obtain knowledge and skills. If someone lacks both, it is a strong indication of them not having enough intelligence to obtain them.

                    What makes you think they don't have the ability to learn how to read analog clocks just because they don't? You might not know how ride a horse, but that doesn't mean you can't learn how to. Are you an idiot for not learning how to?

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                      Would it matter to you if they didn't know how to add and multiply without calculator?

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                      It would cuz there's no better alternative. But analog clocks do have an alternative ........ Digital clocks

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                      • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzB [email protected]

                        How did the seconds end up with three digits?

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                        He never learned the clock.

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                          Well who would ever disagree with a Snopes article

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                          Mostly misogynistic right wingers but I don’t know any on this site.

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                            It would cuz there's no better alternative. But analog clocks do have an alternative ........ Digital clocks

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                            cuz

                            I guess spelling didn't matter to you either? 🙄

                            no better alternative

                            Calculator is an alternative to the mental arithmetic sweetie. Yes we still want kids to know that 2 times 2 is four without using a calculator. Go figure why.

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                              It's not really widely used anymore.

                              Absolute and utter rubbish. Now go to the first high street shop with watches and try again.

                              But clocks can be

                              Your point is?

                              Maps can be easy replace with a GPS. Ability to read maps is still (and should be) on the curriculum.

                              Calculator has replaced the need to add, multiply and divide, yet we still ask children to learn these skills.

                              Go figure 🙄

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                              Now go to the first high street shop with watches and try again

                              Digital clocks exist there too

                              Calculator has replaced the need to add, multiply and divide, yet we still ask children to learn these skills.

                              Cuz the mind is quicker with smaller calculations than a calculator.

                              But analog clocks are harder to comprehend than digital ones

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                                who are too lazy or too stupid

                                They do know how to read the clock (digital ones 🙂 ) Again, it doesn't make them idiots or lazy for not learning something they don't really need to learn

                                Intelligence is an ability to obtain knowledge and skills. If someone lacks both, it is a strong indication of them not having enough intelligence to obtain them.

                                What makes you think they don't have the ability to learn how to read analog clocks just because they don't? You might not know how ride a horse, but that doesn't mean you can't learn how to. Are you an idiot for not learning how to?

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                                They do know how to read the clock

                                They also know how to use calculator, they just don't knot 2 times 2 is four without it. Neither have place during an exam.

                                What makes you think they don't have the ability to learn how to read analog clocks

                                Because if they did, they would have done during lessons to learn it, sweetie 🙄

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                                  Now go to the first high street shop with watches and try again

                                  Digital clocks exist there too

                                  Calculator has replaced the need to add, multiply and divide, yet we still ask children to learn these skills.

                                  Cuz the mind is quicker with smaller calculations than a calculator.

                                  But analog clocks are harder to comprehend than digital ones

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                                  Digital clocks exist there too

                                  Do you see the difference between "exist" and "widely spread" or you are one of these unable to learn how to use the clock?

                                  Cuz

                                  A what?

                                  But analog clocks are harder to comprehend than digital ones

                                  Yes, that's precisely my point. People who are unable to understand analog clocks are also likely to not be able to understand any exams.

                                  It is simple really - if you are unable to do 2 x 2 without calculator or read half past three from the analog clock, you better stick to being a bricklayer or serving burgers rather than doing exams. There is no "entitlement" to do exams.

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                                    cuz

                                    I guess spelling didn't matter to you either? 🙄

                                    no better alternative

                                    Calculator is an alternative to the mental arithmetic sweetie. Yes we still want kids to know that 2 times 2 is four without using a calculator. Go figure why.

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                                    I guess spelling didn't matter to you either? 🙄

                                    Pointing out spelling mistakes is lame af. Yup it totally doesnt. Who cares lmfao

                                    Calculator is an alternative to the mental arithmetic sweetie

                                    And there's no alternative which allows you to use it without any required prior knowledge on how to use it. And therefore we use the calculator as an alternative for larger calculations.

                                    Yes we still want kids to know that 2 times 2 is four without using a calculator. Go figure why.

                                    Because like I said, the mind is faster with smaller calculations. And, like I said, digital clocks are more convenient alternative to analog ones.

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                                      They do know how to read the clock

                                      They also know how to use calculator, they just don't knot 2 times 2 is four without it. Neither have place during an exam.

                                      What makes you think they don't have the ability to learn how to read analog clocks

                                      Because if they did, they would have done during lessons to learn it, sweetie 🙄

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                                      Because if they did, they would have done during lessons to learn it, sweetie

                                      Thanks for calling me a sweetie. Love u too. Forgetting is a thing. Unlike previous generations they are not as much exposed to analog ones. Therefore they don't need to. Digital clocks are used in electronic devices etc.

                                      They also know how to use calculator, they just don't knot 2 times 2 is four without it. Neither have place during an exam

                                      Except basic math is necessary since the brain is faster with smaller calculations and analog clock really isn't that much necessary anymore. They can be replaced.

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                                        I guess spelling didn't matter to you either? 🙄

                                        Pointing out spelling mistakes is lame af. Yup it totally doesnt. Who cares lmfao

                                        Calculator is an alternative to the mental arithmetic sweetie

                                        And there's no alternative which allows you to use it without any required prior knowledge on how to use it. And therefore we use the calculator as an alternative for larger calculations.

                                        Yes we still want kids to know that 2 times 2 is four without using a calculator. Go figure why.

                                        Because like I said, the mind is faster with smaller calculations. And, like I said, digital clocks are more convenient alternative to analog ones.

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                                        lame af. Yup it totally doesnt. Who cares lmfao

                                        Yeah.... I can see why YOU are arguing clocks are too difficult 🤦

                                        And there's no alternative which allows you to use it without any required prior knowledge on how to use it. And therefore we use the calculator as an alternative for larger calculations.

                                        Now read again. Slowly.

                                        Actually, you are the best argument why understanding the clock should be a requirement. 🤣🤣🤣

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                                          Digital clocks exist there too

                                          Do you see the difference between "exist" and "widely spread" or you are one of these unable to learn how to use the clock?

                                          Cuz

                                          A what?

                                          But analog clocks are harder to comprehend than digital ones

                                          Yes, that's precisely my point. People who are unable to understand analog clocks are also likely to not be able to understand any exams.

                                          It is simple really - if you are unable to do 2 x 2 without calculator or read half past three from the analog clock, you better stick to being a bricklayer or serving burgers rather than doing exams. There is no "entitlement" to do exams.

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                                          People who are unable to understand analog clocks are also likely to not be able to understand any exams.

                                          Nope. They don't doesn't mean they can't learn how to. They won't be able to understand exams only if they can't learn how to.

                                          You're basically repeating all the points I've already addressed.

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