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Why Lemmy is so superior to Reddit: No Karma, Just Value Content

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  • ? Guest

    I have a question though:

    On Reddit the same post won't usually show up twice in my feed (unless it's a repost). So once you've seen it, Reddit notices that and kind of marks it as seen I guess.

    Using Lemmy however I happen to see the same posts over and over again for days. Is there any way to fix this?

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    It's one of two things

    1. Your app doesn't hide things that are marked as read. This is typically a setting you can choose.

    2. The same content is being posted to multiple communities or multiple instances (if you are watching global feed). This is not something that can be fixed I think.

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    • ? Guest

      I have a question though:

      On Reddit the same post won't usually show up twice in my feed (unless it's a repost). So once you've seen it, Reddit notices that and kind of marks it as seen I guess.

      Using Lemmy however I happen to see the same posts over and over again for days. Is there any way to fix this?

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      I've never had that experience with reddit. I see so much again

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        I liked my karma back on my old reddit account (before being banned from supporting Luigi), but that is because I had the account for 12 years and invested too much time into it.

        So far I'm enjoying the laid back nature of lemmy. Hopefully there will be more engagement, maybe some UI updates too. But overall I'm liking the switch. The conversations and posts feel more real.

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        I got banned for my support of Luigi as well. 15 year account over there. Sometimes you gotta say goodbye to a friend.

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        • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

          Eternal december.

          I feel like white-list federation can fix it.

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          You could do that if you wanted, but if we had these moderation things will probably be fine. It's also Eternal September

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          • emmie@lemm.eeE [email protected]

            It’s because Reddit specifically optimizes the site so that upvotes give you the maximum dopamine and keep you hooked on it like a crack. Most corporate social media thrive on keeping their users hooked through cheap tricks.

            Lemmy Marxist Leninist Stalinist Maoist dev on the other hand doesn’t care or isn’t even able to do this because he doesn’t have an army of psychology experts to design it that way

            So no you don’t get anything out of karma but your brain thinks you do and every aspect of the site is built to maximise this. I hate it

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            And yet for some reason I spend a lot of time on Lemmy

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            • K [email protected]

              I vaguely recall it being something about refugees or Palestine

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              That makes sense. I still hold the opinion that illegal immigrants should be deported, and Hamas is awful.

              Most people would agree with me, but most on Lemmy would not

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              • F [email protected]

                You could do that if you wanted, but if we had these moderation things will probably be fine. It's also Eternal September

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                Damn. My brain is a bit slow today.

                But can moderation tools really fix the problem of low quality content?

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                • C [email protected]

                  There used to be a saying on early image boards that have helped me more times than I can remember. "Lurk moar", it has served me well. Even getting used to office culture. It helps to not make any faux pas that would make it harder to get along.

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                  At some point so much right in the actual social guide to using the internet

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                  • ? Guest

                    Why make this assumption? Is there a reason you believe we need that karma system? I genuinely can’t think of any reason, outside of corporate interest to push engagement.

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                    I genuinely can’t think of any reason, outside of corporate interest to push engagement.

                    On Reddit, I found that blocking people by account age and link karma noticeably improved the site. edit: For example, blocking 1 year old accounts with more than 100k link karma. /edit Mostly helped me filter out karma farmers from my feed that did nothing but repost memes or low effort shitposts.

                    Of course, not having total karma publicly tracked might make reposting a nonissue.

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                    • ? Guest

                      I would like some tips as well. Currently i’m using voyager, which has a ‚hide read‘ function (for posts you’ve opened) and other than that I swipe hide posts that i’ve „seen“ manually.

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                      Jerboa has an option to mark posts as read automatically (when scrolling over it)

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                      • ? Guest

                        Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                        EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                        Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                        by ditching the Karma farmers

                        How, exactly? Decentralization aside, lemmy is a reddit clone, but on a smaller scale. The same human psychology that drives reddit also drives lemmy. I think your assessment is more applicable to mastodon because there you really have to figure out how to fill your feed with content.

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                        • ? Guest

                          Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                          EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                          Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                          Well, and also because I can express my hope that a piano fall on Spez's head.

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                            Isn't Karma essentially just the delta between upvotes and downvotes you get with some sort of weighting thrown in?

                            Because you can very much get that delta on here, it just isn't visible in the default Lemmy interface. If you look at your account through an Mbin frontend for example you can see the "Reputation points" value in the sidebar: https://fedia.io/u/@[email protected]

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                            I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                            Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                              by ditching the Karma farmers

                              How, exactly? Decentralization aside, lemmy is a reddit clone, but on a smaller scale. The same human psychology that drives reddit also drives lemmy. I think your assessment is more applicable to mastodon because there you really have to figure out how to fill your feed with content.

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                              I put an edit since many had the same rebuttal.

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                              • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                ...what do you think "karma" is?

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                                Read the edit

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                                  Read the edit

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                                  Read the title.

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                                    Well, and also because I can express my hope that a piano fall on Spez's head.

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                                    And we're allowed to say Nazi's are bad

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                                      Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                                      EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                                      Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                                      Lemmy still has comment karma. Mine's at 1500.

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                                      • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                        Read the title.

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                                        Read whatever you want, but read ಠ╭╮ಠ

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                                        • psythik@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                                          Lemmy still has comment karma. Mine's at 1500.

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                                          that's number of comments, not total points.

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