Based muslim child
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Just to be clear, I see polygamy as bad only because of the women oppression aspect. But the world is a big place and history is long, so I wouldn't be surprised if at some point there was some system that allowed for polygamy without oppressing women. Mentioning mormons - don't you think they can be seen as another weird different group - and therefore be also object of xenophobia? Notice I intentionally didn't use the word racism, what I mean is just the sentiment that people doing things differently than my group must be deadly wrong.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yeah, there's some aspect of "they're different so they're bad" in LDS history (not without reason, the church did and justified many fucked up things), but the modern polygamous Mormon splinter groups are kinda overlooked for the most part. They're pretty embedded in a lot of smaller towns and cities across southern Utah and northern Arizona (there may be more, it's been a while since I've looked at the topic), and they get very little national attention.
Contrast that with stuff like this tweet that just so happens to play to a lot conservative notions about how "backwards" Islam is.
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That must be unbearable.
Obviously. That's clearly two women who didn't choose the bear.
Marriage is punishment for shoplifting in some countries. This guy must have been really badly-behaved.
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Is the main objection to polygamy that having multiple sex partners is immoral or that the whole arrangement is subjugation of women (because usually it's multiple wives not husbands), or some other reason?
A bit of both. The Greeks and Romans had a cultural taboo against polygamy which Christianity inherited, which means that Christians have historically been opposed to polygamy (which was not the case in Pre-christian northern Europe) on moral grounds. There is also the issue that historically polygamy has been associated with patriarchal societies in which men are allowed or expected to have multiple wives, but women are not allowed to do the same. Additionally, it is also culturally associated with treating women as property of the husband. Personally I don't have any issue with polygamy if everyone is free to do whatever but the way most cultures practice it, it's unfair to women. Then again, that could also he said of "traditional" marriage in a lot of monogamous scenarios too.
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Like Mummy, right? Same
Would the plural even be mummies? I don't know but I had to re-read because my dumb brain already went there when I got to the end.
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Call me whatever you want, I believe women should have equal rights.
Sure, but that's universal. Most of the Islamic theocratic have this problem, and it's a point of general focus... but Islam is their excuse, not a functional cause. It's not like Mormons did it any better.
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People don't want to talk about this, but lesbianism is common in polygamy.
Not in a Muslim household it ain't.
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I don’t have sources but I think it makes sense logically.
pretty sure most women in a polygamy hate being in them, read more than a few articles about first wives then getting put aside for a younger model but they can’t leave because no money (based islam
)I'm not sure "women can't leave dysfunction relationship because they won't have income" is a problem unique to Islam.
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Would the plural even be mummies? I don't know but I had to re-read because my dumb brain already went there when I got to the end.
Yes, it would be mummies.
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Find me just one example of a Muslim woman with two husbands.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Excuse me? If you want one find her yourself.
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Is the main objection to polygamy that having multiple sex partners is immoral or that the whole arrangement is subjugation of women (because usually it's multiple wives not husbands), or some other reason?
Muslim men can have multiple wives (maximum 5 I believe) as long as they can provide for them. Muslim women are only allowed to have a single husband.
The joke is that the school thought that the kid’s family was super progressive meanwhile in reality it was super patriarchal
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Muslim men can have multiple wives (maximum 5 I believe) as long as they can provide for them. Muslim women are only allowed to have a single husband.
The joke is that the school thought that the kid’s family was super progressive meanwhile in reality it was super patriarchal
Thanks, I got the humor, what I'm wondering about is what's the predominant reason people in general object to polygamy, regardless of whether it's Islam or Mormons or whatever.
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It’s an easy one-sentence way to point out the inherent subjugation of women.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]And that's why some people object to polygamy. Others object because of the multiple sex partners. I could imagine people even thinking of it as some kind of tax dodge, or socialism, or reasons I couldn't fathom.
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A bit of both. The Greeks and Romans had a cultural taboo against polygamy which Christianity inherited, which means that Christians have historically been opposed to polygamy (which was not the case in Pre-christian northern Europe) on moral grounds. There is also the issue that historically polygamy has been associated with patriarchal societies in which men are allowed or expected to have multiple wives, but women are not allowed to do the same. Additionally, it is also culturally associated with treating women as property of the husband. Personally I don't have any issue with polygamy if everyone is free to do whatever but the way most cultures practice it, it's unfair to women. Then again, that could also he said of "traditional" marriage in a lot of monogamous scenarios too.
"one to cook and one to clean" is one of the "joke-y" sayings I heard
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Thanks, I got the humor, what I'm wondering about is what's the predominant reason people in general object to polygamy, regardless of whether it's Islam or Mormons or whatever.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]People confuse polygamy with polygyny.
Polygamy is when one person can marry multiple people.
Polygyny is when one person can marry multiple women.
Polyandry is when one person can marry multiple men.
There's no specific word for when one person can marry multiple nonbinary people.
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Call me whatever you want, I believe women should have equal rights.
You do think that women should be able to marry more than one person? So above story wouldn't be a problem for you if one of the women had a husband and a wife?
From my personal experience a lot of muslim women do not consent to their husband havinv more than one wife (in Islam the woman has to consent), so it's something that happens only when the women agree to it.
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If this wasn't posted by a right winger farming anti lgbt sentiment I'd probably cringe at the school being excited to parade the kid around for being accepting of lgbt people.
I hope Islam gets slept by JDM so I can laugh at people like this guy.
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If this wasn't posted by a right winger farming anti lgbt sentiment I'd probably cringe at the school being excited to parade the kid around for being accepting of lgbt people.
I hope Islam gets slept by JDM so I can laugh at people like this guy.
The Japanese domestic market?
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Somehow I doubt your sincerity. Most people who bring up women's rights when it comes to Muslims only bring up women's rights when Muslims are involved. Like conservatives who would happily defund every women's sports programs but use women's sports as a cudgel to hurt trans people.
It's really transparent and disingenuous, and you give off those same vibes.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Based on one comment? You’re pulling that out of your ass because confronting your own inconsistencies makes you uncomfortable. Feel free to stalk my comment history of you want.
Also way to tell on yourself that you don’t respect women’s rights.
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Actually just has dead, wrapped up Egyptians in his basement.
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You can’t consent to a religion if leaving it causes you to be shunned by your family and community.
Then almost no one consents to their religion worldwide at all, barring a relative handful who leave the dominant faith in their community and are essentially disconnected solo practitioners of whatever, because joining or marrying into a different religious community is essentially just choosing a different group with the power to shun you for leaving their faith in turn.
Pretty abusive, isn’t it?
