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Does it say anywhere in the article what social programs are on the chopping block?

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  • gsus4@mander.xyzG This user is from outside of this forum
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    Does it say anywhere in the article what social programs are on the chopping block? I've heard this claim hundreds of times, but so far it's on the basis of "it's got to come from somewhere". What if you build military hospitals, military infrastrtucture and military schools? Wink wink, nudge nudge.

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    • gsus4@mander.xyzG [email protected]

      Does it say anywhere in the article what social programs are on the chopping block? I've heard this claim hundreds of times, but so far it's on the basis of "it's got to come from somewhere". What if you build military hospitals, military infrastrtucture and military schools? Wink wink, nudge nudge.

      fullsquare@awful.systemsF This user is from outside of this forum
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      it's not listed because this is not what is happening

      italy for example put bridge construction in that military budget (as critical infrastructure)

      also the subtext was "spend that defense budget in america" and this is not happening either for variety of reasons, so it's partial failure already for them

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        it's not listed because this is not what is happening

        italy for example put bridge construction in that military budget (as critical infrastructure)

        also the subtext was "spend that defense budget in america" and this is not happening either for variety of reasons, so it's partial failure already for them

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        “spend that defense budget in america”

        hah, yeah, that part is hilarious. tramp already ruined the f35 program by suggesting that the ones sold to allies would come with degraded specs...why sink funding in something that you can only use with american permission exclusively for their stupid wars?

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          “spend that defense budget in america”

          hah, yeah, that part is hilarious. tramp already ruined the f35 program by suggesting that the ones sold to allies would come with degraded specs...why sink funding in something that you can only use with american permission exclusively for their stupid wars?

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          there's a couple of big failures in american defense industry (like shipbuilding) but F35 is not one of them. the alleged killswitch is not likely a thing because first, it could be used by the most probable adversary, and they already shown capability in EW; and second, it's not necessary because it requires constant stream of spare parts and maintenance. as if it's worth it, ask any remaining iranian radar operator for firsthand opinion

          some countries switched to euro made jets anyway, but these aren't likely to be doing the job that F35 is cut to do anyway (SEAD)

          there's already euro alternative in development, for which americans were explicitly not invited (GCAP, FCAS). there's also the everything else part of military, half of euro countries make now artillery (both tube and rocket) so these can be bought locally too

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            there's a couple of big failures in american defense industry (like shipbuilding) but F35 is not one of them. the alleged killswitch is not likely a thing because first, it could be used by the most probable adversary, and they already shown capability in EW; and second, it's not necessary because it requires constant stream of spare parts and maintenance. as if it's worth it, ask any remaining iranian radar operator for firsthand opinion

            some countries switched to euro made jets anyway, but these aren't likely to be doing the job that F35 is cut to do anyway (SEAD)

            there's already euro alternative in development, for which americans were explicitly not invited (GCAP, FCAS). there's also the everything else part of military, half of euro countries make now artillery (both tube and rocket) so these can be bought locally too

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            Yes, but israel gets the F35I variant. They are probably independent in software, targetting (and parts?), because israel as the US golden child always gets the juiciest deals. The EU, meanwhile, gets the "leeches, warmongers, pathetic freeloaders" treatment.

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            • gsus4@mander.xyzG [email protected]

              Yes, but israel gets the F35I variant. They are probably independent in software, targetting (and parts?), because israel as the US golden child always gets the juiciest deals. The EU, meanwhile, gets the "leeches, warmongers, pathetic freeloaders" treatment.

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              at minimum brits have source code. couple of eu countries make parts for it as well

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              • gsus4@mander.xyzG [email protected]

                Does it say anywhere in the article what social programs are on the chopping block? I've heard this claim hundreds of times, but so far it's on the basis of "it's got to come from somewhere". What if you build military hospitals, military infrastrtucture and military schools? Wink wink, nudge nudge.

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                russia is gearing towards Europe.

                The first stage of the war is sowing discontent.

                Read up on Gerasimovs doctrine.

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