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    i do both for good measure

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      Loosing is almost never the word anyone is looking for.

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        Loosing is almost never the word anyone is looking for.

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        loosening?

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          loosening?

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          Loose is also plenty useful. However neither of those are the word "loosing".

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            loosening?

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            The right word is "losing", one O, not two. They have different meanings

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              The right word is "losing", one O, not two. They have different meanings

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              can you not loosen the ties?

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                Not having any social connections, never have to use Do Not Disturb mode.

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                  can you not loosen the ties?

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                  If you were talking about neckties, maybe. Loosening social ties doesn't sound natural, at least to me.

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                    So you can reject calls with ease as it's only robocalls for sure.

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                      can you not loosen the ties?

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                      That usage is akin to “unleashing” which is almost the opposite of the intended meaning.

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                        can you not loosen the ties?

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                        Loosen ties means to make cords or ties less tight. It's a physical thing. For example, with your shoestrings, you can loosen these ties if they happen to be too tight. You can also lose your shoestrings, meaning you lost them and don't know where they are anymore.

                        You don't talk about emotional or social ties like that. You can lose social ties though, in the sense of loss. But you don't loose social ties, it doesn't make sense. That's the difference between the two words.

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                          Does one loose social ties with a catapult? A trebuchet? Are social ties loosed as one would arrows from a bow? Personally I loosen my ties by pulling down on the knot, away from the neck

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                            Loosen ties means to make cords or ties less tight. It's a physical thing. For example, with your shoestrings, you can loosen these ties if they happen to be too tight. You can also lose your shoestrings, meaning you lost them and don't know where they are anymore.

                            You don't talk about emotional or social ties like that. You can lose social ties though, in the sense of loss. But you don't loose social ties, it doesn't make sense. That's the difference between the two words.

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                            I disagree:

                            The phrase 'tight-knit community' exists, and is fairly commonly used.

                            A 'loose-knit community' would have... less direct ties, less overlapping ties between everyone to everyone, would be more... islands of people connected by a few inter-island connections... maybe less frequent interactions between members...

                            A social network is often mathematically/academically/professional
                            ly described as a bunch of points, clustered, with connections between them.

                            Even the very word 'network' is etymylogically derived from a net, an interwoven mesh.

                            You very much can literally loosen or tighten a net, make one that is more pourous or more dense in terms of threads in any given surface area.

                            Hey there ya go, even Threads is an actual name for a social network.

                            I think the metaphor or analogy of social networks being described by other terms that literally apply to an actual net or fabric is... actually incredibly common.

                            ... You've never heard a person being described as having 'loose ties to (other person/group)?

                            Have you never watched any kind of detective show, a 'stop the terrorists' political action thriller?

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                              Does one loose social ties with a catapult? A trebuchet? Are social ties loosed as one would arrows from a bow? Personally I loosen my ties by pulling down on the knot, away from the neck

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                              There's a tension joke in there.

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                                Not having any social connections, never have to use Do Not Disturb mode.

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                                Don't worry, much of social interaction can be the primary source of disturbance, NGL.

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                                  If you were talking about neckties, maybe. Loosening social ties doesn't sound natural, at least to me.

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                                  You can loose, or loosen a knot, or lasso, or if you are rather good with ropes nets and knots, you can actually do that to an entire net, give it more or less slack, grid density.

                                  I guess its just become far less common for people to have practical, hands on experience with knots and ropes... its pretty important if you want to moor a boat to a dock, or make your own fishing net as humans have done for millenia...

                                  Same goes for knitting, weaving, making clothes and garments of all kinds.

                                  Ever loosened a waistband, or tightened one?

                                  Less and less people have actual hands on experience with any of this, so I guess the metaophors/analogies aren't as obvious anymore.

                                  Heck, loose, as a verb, just like that, also basically means 'to throw' or 'to project away from you'.

                                  You loose an arrow, or a javelin.

                                  You let loose a hail of bullets, ie, throw them downrange, away from you.

                                  You loose a dog, to set it free, or perhaps to go run off and chase/attack something.

                                  Which is differenrt from losing a dog, which is when it fails to return from you loosing it.

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                                    That usage is akin to “unleashing” which is almost the opposite of the intended meaning.

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                                    Release the hounds!

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                                      If you were talking about neckties, maybe. Loosening social ties doesn't sound natural, at least to me.

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                                      Lol, then that's a you problem.

                                      That exact phrase is how it would be used, and has been used, in print, for decades

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                                        I disagree:

                                        The phrase 'tight-knit community' exists, and is fairly commonly used.

                                        A 'loose-knit community' would have... less direct ties, less overlapping ties between everyone to everyone, would be more... islands of people connected by a few inter-island connections... maybe less frequent interactions between members...

                                        A social network is often mathematically/academically/professional
                                        ly described as a bunch of points, clustered, with connections between them.

                                        Even the very word 'network' is etymylogically derived from a net, an interwoven mesh.

                                        You very much can literally loosen or tighten a net, make one that is more pourous or more dense in terms of threads in any given surface area.

                                        Hey there ya go, even Threads is an actual name for a social network.

                                        I think the metaphor or analogy of social networks being described by other terms that literally apply to an actual net or fabric is... actually incredibly common.

                                        ... You've never heard a person being described as having 'loose ties to (other person/group)?

                                        Have you never watched any kind of detective show, a 'stop the terrorists' political action thriller?

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                                        We're discussing the use of lose and loose in particular, not other words; and in the specific context of the text in this meme. Just because you can think of plenty of examples of social networks that have loose structures (and so can I, and most people) doesn't mean it's okay to use the word any way you feel is right for you.

                                        Or in other words, a sentence can be structurally sound but be invalid in terms of cultural convention and language use. And in such a case, it's still deemed to be grammatically incorrect - whether it's misspelling or misusing of the word.

                                        But you have the right to disagree all you want.

                                        I disagree:

                                        The phrase 'tight-knit community' exists, and is fairly commonly used.

                                        We were not discussing 'tight-knit'

                                        A 'loose-knit community' would have...

                                        Yes, would have. I've never heard the term, perhaps it exists. But it's used as an adjective here, not a verb as in our case. Point irrelevant.

                                        A social network is often mathematically/academically/professionally described as a bunch of points, clustered, with connections between them.

                                        Even the very word 'network' is etymylogically derived from a net, an interwoven mesh.

                                        You very much can literally loosen or tighten a net, make one that is more pourous or more dense in terms of threads in any given surface area.

                                        Hey there ya go, even Threads is an actual name for a social network.

                                        I think the metaphor or analogy of social networks being described by other terms that literally apply to an actual net or fabric is... actually incredibly common.

                                        All this is irrelevant. Of course you can describe loose networks. Or meshes. Or nets. Note loose is an adjective in all of these cases, again. Not the usage we were originally discussing.

                                        ... You've never heard a person being described as having 'loose ties to (other person/group)?

                                        Yeah I've heard. Adjective again.

                                        Have you never watched any kind of detective show, a 'stop the terrorists' political action thriller?

                                        Yes, I have. Irrelevant though.

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                                          Does one loose social ties with a catapult? A trebuchet? Are social ties loosed as one would arrows from a bow? Personally I loosen my ties by pulling down on the knot, away from the neck

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                                          You just have to be yourself and not go out side and everyone forgets you exist.

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