Posting for the "Now guys he was MURDERED! Don't celebrate!" Crowd
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I'd like to ask a general question that I'm not entirely sure I can give enough context for.
When did we as a society start listening so intently to what amounts to barely more than children? This Kirk guy looked chromosomal on top of being barely out of high school, how and why do so many people listen to him?
Half a century ago thought leaders were people like Isaac Asimov or Carl Sagan or Gwynne Dyer or Roy Bonisteel or any number of scholarly people over a certain age.
When did we start caring about high schooler's opinions on a national level?
We always have and it's how the left has lost young men. Counterculture and much progressivism has always been young men meeting up to consume drugs and engage in pseudointellectual conversation. Each generation had them, the hippies of the 60s, punks of the 80s, beatniks of the 50s. However the counterculture spaces of growth and optimism men created grew to resent and exclude them, and they have been scooped up by the testosterone peddling rage dealers that pull them in by their curiosity and desire to better understand and affect the world and themselves. There they are twisted into being dependent on a guide to get them through the delusional world they then believe in.
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To be fair, using his talking points that made him one of the biggest cunts on the planet as justification to be just like him, its pretty wild. He was cunt, there no doubt about that. But his death brings that question back onto you. Are you going to celebrate the death of a 31 year old man just because you didnt like the dumb shit he said? If the answer is yes, you might not be the good guy you think you are.
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I would actually like to know what he was leading to with that question. Is the implication that gangs have an overrepresentation of trans people? Or that gang violence doesn't count for some reason?
I guess we'll never know.
our gangs of forcefemme communists are very trans and very violent, yes
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They didn't seem to care when it was Paul Pelosi, or the two democratic politicians that were assassinated in their homes.
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Fuck him.
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:::spoilers please
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I hate how some are trying to spin this as "he was killed just for having different opinions" like no, he didn't just have "different opinions" that's grossly oversimplifying things, he advocated for the genocide in Gaza, said kids being shot in school is "worth it" because "god given rights" (which version of the Bible had assault rifles in it?) ridiculed disabled people in his circles, and said if his 9 year old daughter got raped he wouldn't allow her to have an abortion
All while in a position of authority and power with influence over a significant portion of people. How anyone can sympathise for him I don't know
If they're "just words" then why are they so butthurt over our words? It's just words when I say "Charlie Kirk deserved what he got". What's the big deal???
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You're arguing for parochial empathy over real empathy.
Exactly the opposite. We should have empathy, tolerance, and inclusiveness for all, unless people choose to exclude themselves from that collective. I’m saying those who only have parochial empathy shouldn’t expect to receive empathy from others they’ve already cut themselves off from, and it’s not something those they shut out to be shamed for that they experienced the repercussions of their actions.
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Do you say the same to those somehow still supporting Israel’s genocide in Gaza when there is vastly more grotesque footage? Or for the slaughtering and rapping in Ukraine with now years of footage? Or those enabling the children being blasted away in schools across the us on a daily basis, including yesterday? 🧐
Yes, as the decensitivation is a necessary element for the continuation of the violence
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GOP heard they'd be getting tots and are trying to hide their disappointment that you meant the potato product.
dude it's tots how are you sad? get me some franks red hot it's happy time
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Exactly the opposite. We should have empathy, tolerance, and inclusiveness for all, unless people choose to exclude themselves from that collective. I’m saying those who only have parochial empathy shouldn’t expect to receive empathy from others they’ve already cut themselves off from, and it’s not something those they shut out to be shamed for that they experienced the repercussions of their actions.
wrote last edited by [email protected]You are describing parochial empathy, with the caveat that somehow you think it's different when you do it.
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I'd like to ask a general question that I'm not entirely sure I can give enough context for.
When did we as a society start listening so intently to what amounts to barely more than children? This Kirk guy looked chromosomal on top of being barely out of high school, how and why do so many people listen to him?
Half a century ago thought leaders were people like Isaac Asimov or Carl Sagan or Gwynne Dyer or Roy Bonisteel or any number of scholarly people over a certain age.
When did we start caring about high schooler's opinions on a national level?
The answer is social media. And theres grifters for everyone to latch on to, and get their opinions from.
It seems like the right wing have the market cornered, but thats only because we frequent left leaning social media holes. If you look at the right holes, you'll see the same insanity going the other way. Unhinged blue hair land whales getting weird as fuck about a hot girl wearing jeans for example. But right now, if you look, what you'll see an ocean of right wing grifters pointing to social media posts and comments and that are cheering on the death of Kirk. Which if you think about it, its pretty fucking sick. Yeah, he was a cunt. But that doesnt mean we have to be as well.
I mean, if I told you that someone was killed because of their political beliefs, youd think of Lincoln or Kennedy. And then if I told you people were cheering about it, youd think they were sick. But this is somehow worse. Charlie Kirk was killed not for politics, but because of the dumb as fuck culture wars that he took part in. Saying outrageous, bigoted dog shit, and then being celebrated for it by an annoying gaggle of cave brained cunts.
This is why people are celebrating. This weird culture war, that has both sides not seeing human beings anymore. Just talking heads that say things they dont like. The real horror of this is that a human being was murdered, and no one on the left side of the culture war for one second thought of the human being, or the horrific way he died. They just cheered and tapped away keys with satisfying clicky sounds. And worse than that, the cunt is now a martyr to that cause. This will only escalate now. And that, is nothing that anyone should be happy about.
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Have you tried therapy? Enjoying murder is horrific
enjoying his murder is part of our therapy
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Yeah. Nobody should have to watch their parent or child die. Guy was a waste of oxygen but I hope the kids get plenty of therapy.
Moving forward may the world be a slightly better place, where these conservative grifters are tempered slightly by the fear they might end up like Charlie here.
Yeah, thats whats going to happen. Not that the unhinged right wing fuckwits use him as martyr, and saddle up for some weird fucking payback.
The way to defeat Kirk was with words and facts. A bullet does nothing but make his voice louder. If it was some left wing culture war weirdo, all they did was make him immortal. Yay...
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To be fair, using his talking points that made him one of the biggest cunts on the planet as justification to be just like him, its pretty wild. He was cunt, there no doubt about that. But his death brings that question back onto you. Are you going to celebrate the death of a 31 year old man just because you didnt like the dumb shit he said? If the answer is yes, you might not be the good guy you think you are.
He wasn't just spreading shitty opinions, he was spreading hate and fear and creating a dangerous environment for those he didn't like. He got what he fucking deserved.
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I dont feel bad for his family.
They're safe now
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Why do you think the actual white power, right extremists are getting closer and closer to power everywhere? Why is there is a spike in young men leaning right? Because they listen to assholes like this one. Words are very dangerous in the long run.
No, its because they see asshole like you cheering for the murder of people who say dumb shit. How the fuck can you not see your own extremism when its so fucking blatant???? "People who dont agree with me deserve to die!". That you lot, thats you lot right fucking now.
Jesus christ.
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How anyone can sympathise for him I don’t know
At the end of the day he is a human being, that's why. I'm not trying to defend the guy, but fundamentally that's what is supposed to divide the progressives/liberals vs the conservatives. The conservatives don't care except when it's their own while the progressives and liberals are supposed to care about all people supposedly.
No, someone who spread as much hate as he did, doesn't deserve sympathy.
I hope the bullet is ok.
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Yep. I've already said this like three times on other platforms: it's ok to be happy about this. He gave you permission. Twice, actually. The "it's worth sacrificing a person every now and then if it means we get to have guns" and this empathy thing.
This is maybe the only time it's ok to be happy someone died.
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I would actually like to know what he was leading to with that question. Is the implication that gangs have an overrepresentation of trans people? Or that gang violence doesn't count for some reason?
I guess we'll never know.
Just some good old racism
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I think since forever, there's for example quite a few teenagers amongst the US Founding Fathers age when signing declaration of independence:
Alexander Hamilton 21
James Monroe 18
Nathan Hale 21
John Marshall 20
Aaron Burr 20
Charles Pinckney 18Imagine having to juggle being a Father and getting through college at the same time.
