A White Nationalist Wrote a Law School Paper Promoting Racist Views. It Won Him an Award.

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"I'm not like an ax murderer or anything." No, you're worse. You might face consequences if you kill a couple of racial minorities in that manner. Instead, you're going to try and kill or ruin the lives of all racial minorities in this country. My race, being white people, stole and murdered to get this land. That doesn't make it ours. To pretend that it is, even worse, that it's wrong for people to peacefully come here doing none of the things of our ancestors, is unbelievably wrong. The fact that are grown ass men that haven't developed basic empathy or moral compasses, baffles me.

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@PattyMcB EVERY one? That seems statistically unlikely. Are you sure there isn't some other relevant factor involved?

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I know a public defender who's pretty good.

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Where is the paper?

If this is indeed a high quality legal paper then it'll highlight the weaknesses in the legal foundation of us which enables such positions. If it legally possible, somebody will do it.

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In his capstone paper for the class, Mr. Damsky argued that the framers had intended for the phrase “We the People,” in the Constitution’s preamble, to refer exclusively to white people. From there, he argued for the...

I mean, it's an honest start, but then goes on to ignore the progress of history that's occured from that point. Doing so to push a "traditionalist" racist agenda.

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I say these type of traditionalists aren't really living their ideologies until they die at 25, in a cave with no electricity, from a disease that's long since been cured.

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That's not how the right views the education system.

Some view it as a source of leftist indoctrination, and this as a rare win for 'their' side, in a sea of socialist brainwashing and woke DEI genocidal messages.

Those individuals will in turn see it as a way to push 'their' ideological culture war messages.

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I studied law in college. I interned in a high- powered legal defense office. I've met countless lawyers over the years. There are many, MANY wonderful lawyers out there working incredibly hard to better the world and protect disenfranchised people.

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Sociopathy doesn't exist, psychology does not know such diagnosis.

Edit: I guess y'all really want to continue spreading cool sounding words and staying ignorant.

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@Davriellelouna I've seen this legal framework before. It's called Originalism, and Originalism is voodoo bullshit. It's basically, "Because Washington enslaved people, literally anything that doesn't explicitly say otherwise must mean the same thing." It's pre-determined, self-fulfilling, completion-backwards legal forensics, and I say again, IT IS BULLSHIT.

How do I know? Not just on its own obvious terms, but because the very same people will say the opposite when it suits them. They lie.

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I bet you're a blast at parties.

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I honestly think those people think that dissent is a sign that they are doing what’s right. That’s why they invented the term “social justice warrior,” when in most places that’s just how society works: by holding people accountable.

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If only those framers provided a way to update the Constitution in case things change.

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Same here, I've yet to meet someone who studied law or business administration who doesn't have some weird energy about them.

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“It’s just that — neutrality,” she added. “The government — in this case, our public university — stays out of picking sides, so that, through the marketplace of ideas, you can debate and arrive at truth for yourself and for the community.”

Some at the law school agree with her stance. In an interview, John F. Stinneford, a professor at the university, said that it would be “academic misconduct” for a law professor who opposed abortion to give a lower grade to a well-argued paper advocating abortion rights.

This makes sense to me as a principle, but the idea that the paper is genuinely making a good argument seems really questionable.

Among originalists, though, this interpretation [apparently that “We the People,” refers to white people, and therefore the constitution applies to them exclusively] has been widely rejected. Instead, conservatives have argued that much of the text of the Constitution “tilts toward liberty” for all, said Jonathan Gienapp, an associate professor of history and law at Stanford. They also note that the post-Civil War amendments guaranteeing rights to nonwhite people “washed away whatever racial taint” there was in the original document.

Sounds like not even other originalists take it seriously. On its face the idea seems really stupid, since the wording of that part of the constitution doesn't involve race, and whiteness has always been a very loosely defined concept with a lot of ambiguity that wouldn't be a natural fit for a legal principle. So maybe the paper is getting a high grade and an award is itself a display of personal bias.

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I don't really care what they think. If that's the hill they want to die on, then let them fucking die.

The point of dissenting isn't to convince them. It is to stand in their way and say "you're gonna quit this bullshit or we are gonna fucking make you."

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Little did he know if he made such comments about Jews only a few months later he would have had far more public support

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Absolutely agree. Just saying that they get fired up by it, instead of (edit: no idea how it became “or” because I meant instead of) discouraged.

It might be smarter for us to use different methods.

The biggest offense to them is to be ignored. At least that’s what I’ve noticed.

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Make both of those motherfuckers terrified to show their faces on campus. Nazi pieces of shit.

My grandfather died in 1999. He stormed the beaches of Normandy. He never told us in detail what he saw on those beaches. But he often pointed out little things that I took for granted. Little things like how we get to have ice cream if we want because we're not in a police state.

Now, 5 year old me didn't fully know what he meant sometimes, but I always got the sense it was important. As I grew into a teenager he pointed out the items on the shelf at a grocery store. He said "Look at all these cereals. You get your choice, and I get mine. I want raisin bran. What do you want?" At the time reeses puffs were new, and I wanted that. So he said "then you get what you want, I get what I want, and the only thing the cashier cares about is that I have enough cash to cover the bill. Nobody is supressing you, or controlling your life. Nobody is making your decisions for you. You're free to fail, but it's your own doing. THAT'S what I fought for on those beaches. For you. For your mom. For everybody in this country."

I started crying because I was old enough to understand what he was saying. I was at that moment remembering how he lost his best friend that day. How he had to run past his recently fallen corpse and storm the beach. I was crying thinking about how hard he and everybody else that day fought with their lives to protect everybody else. I wasn't even born until 1983. My mom wasn't born until 1947. My grandpa fought so we didn't have to. My grandfather fought to rid this planet of nazis.

If my grandfather were alive today, I know how he'd react. Silent. Gruff grunt. Angry face. Which I know doesn't sound like much, but that's his reaction when he can't stand someone/something.

One time we came home, and there was a shoe sticking out from behind the recliner. He grunts, in that same silent manner, and says to me "Let me show ya somethin, kid!"

He pulls the shoe up, which still had this 20 year old druggie who was now being held upside down by his ankle. My 80 year old grandpa was holding with one hand a druggie and a beer in the other. Says to him "You want to steal from my house? grunt Let me show ya somethin."

And proceeds to beat the shit out him.

That grunt, and especially if he said "let me show ya something!" meant your ass was in trouble.

If he saw the current world, and twitter, I have no doubt he'd go find musk, bring an army if he had to, and tell musk "Let me show ya something, ya little punk!"

Yeah. He'd absolutely gruff grunt at this shit.

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"Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented". —Elie Wiesel, Holocaust survivor and famous author

The issue with ignoring them is they, as well as those being targeted by the oppressive rhetoric, will take the silence as tacit approval. Those who espouse it will be encouraged to further push boundaries of what is tolerable while the victims will be made to feel unsafe existing in public.

This is the point of the "Nazi Bar" story where you kick people out at the first sign of it 'cause, if you don't and just ignore them, they'll soon begin to bring all their friends who espouse much worse rhetoric and, soon after that, suddenly you find yourself running the local Nazi Bar as they made everyone else feel unsafe and ran them off, which was their goal from the beginning.

I don't want them to succeed in their goal.

Yes, it might be effective in getting a rise out of them sometimes to ignore them to their face, but I don't care about them or their reaction. I care about the people around us who have to listen and be made to feel unsafe existing in the community and to let those people know that there are others in the community who will stand up for them and be willing to put themselves at risk for their sake; to know with confidence that, when push comes to shove, we will stand beside them.

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