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John Oliver promoted alternatives to big tech in last night's episode, including Mastodon and Pixelfed

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  • baronvonj@lemmy.worldB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #58

    Jack is still the single largest shareholder of private Bluesky stock ...

    Oh vraiment?

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8dm0ljg4y6o

    If anyone tells you Jack isn't involved with BlueSky any more, you should really block them for either being willfully ignorant, or purposefully mistrustful

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    • tropicaldingdong@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

      we

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      #59

      .

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      • baronvonj@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

        Their protocol allows for federated relay servers, but I'm not aware of anyone having done the exercise of launching one.

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        That's because, to my understanding, the prerequisite to be able to launch one is "handle the raw, unfiltered firehose of all the traffic on the entire platform,". A relay has to be a mirror of the entire company's hosting infastructure, and you'd have to essentially do it for free. It's no puzzle to me why no one's done it yet.

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        • evkob@lemmy.caE [email protected]

          "Public benefit corporation" is such an oxymoron, I know it's cliché to say this but it reads like something out of 1984.

          If your goal is truly to benefit the public, why wouldn't you start a non-profit? It's because they want profits, which will always be at odds with the interests of the public.

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          If your goal is truly to benefit the public, why wouldn't you start a non-profit?

          Because your non-profit isn't likely to go anywhere; Capitalists don't give significant money to non-profits, but they'll invest in a public benefit corporation because of the potential for profit. The corporation can then take their money and use it for whatever public benefit it intends to work towards.

          It's a workaround to try and scrape some benefit to society out of capital, that otherwise wouldn't exist.

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          • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

            If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

            Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

            rhoeri@lemmy.worldR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #62

            I’m sure he’s going to be facing lawsuits from Краснов and Wormtongue.

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            • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.worksI [email protected]

              I wish he had mentioned Lemmy, but it's understandable that he didn't. Also Bluesky isn't an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn't stealing so much of our publicity lately.

              But beggars can't be choosers, and we have seen some nice growth over the past couple months. John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.

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              Also Bluesky isn't an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn't stealing so much of our publicity lately.

              This; I'm so sick of hearing it pop up when people mention alternatives.

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              • umbrella@lemmy.mlU [email protected]

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                tropicaldingdong@lemmy.worldT This user is from outside of this forum
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                #64

                kind of

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                • tomenzgg@midwest.socialT [email protected]

                  Also Bluesky isn't an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn't stealing so much of our publicity lately.

                  This; I'm so sick of hearing it pop up when people mention alternatives.

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                  The thing that it really has going for itself is that it simply isn't twitter. And Muskler made sure that's a huge deal.

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                    #66

                    Chances are it's really just that, a start. See OpenAI.

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                    • breakfastmtn@lemmy.caB [email protected]

                      Anyone have a link that works for Canadians, you MONSTERS?

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                      #67

                      https://peertube2.cpy.re/w/rq6WfwnQTiHfpoWhURLNBS

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                      • P [email protected]

                        That's because, to my understanding, the prerequisite to be able to launch one is "handle the raw, unfiltered firehose of all the traffic on the entire platform,". A relay has to be a mirror of the entire company's hosting infastructure, and you'd have to essentially do it for free. It's no puzzle to me why no one's done it yet.

                        baronvonj@lemmy.worldB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #68

                        Ah, yeah that makes sense then. They're over 30M active users now.

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                        • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.worksI [email protected]

                          I wish he had mentioned Lemmy, but it's understandable that he didn't. Also Bluesky isn't an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn't stealing so much of our publicity lately.

                          But beggars can't be choosers, and we have seen some nice growth over the past couple months. John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.

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                          Do you really think Lemmy could handle the amount of people that Reddit has?

                          As far as I know the existing instances are usually running on capacity and always in need of donations, and that’s when the owner isn’t handling the costs themselves. I’m not sure how well most instances have right now.

                          Maybe Lemmy would benefit of some way to get people to pay, such as giving people awards etc. like Reddit. Despite being useless stuff, it might provide some fun that would make hardcore users want to pay. But for that to work out, all apps would also need to show the posts awarded in a different way, so I think that’s unlikely.

                          But the point is that without a business model, the Fediverse will only be able to handle enthusiasts.

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                          • openstars@piefed.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                            It's been 3 hours and your comment is still here...

                            "Moderate" no, "Influence" yes. I see what you seemed to be trying to say: the Lemmy codebase is fairly authoritian e.g. lacks any way to contact a mod to find out why something was removed, even going so far as to obscure the name of the account that did it, simply saying "mod".

                            So them being the ones who provide the codebase definitely "influences" us here, but on the other hand they provide the code for free, and anyone at all could make a fork off from it, and administer their own instance however they see fit. Or, as K/Mbin, PieFed, and Sublinks have all done, make their own Reddit replacement Threadiverse software entirely from scratch.

                            See e.g. [email protected] (here's a start to a post) that proves that people on the Fediverse are allowed to criticize the main Lemmy developers, while still using Lemmy software.

                            On a personal note I will add: we can respect certain aspects of those people, even as we criticize other aspects, just as we do the same internally inside of our very selves.

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                            • tomenzgg@midwest.socialT [email protected]

                              Also Bluesky isn't an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn't stealing so much of our publicity lately.

                              This; I'm so sick of hearing it pop up when people mention alternatives.

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                              I'm not sure anyone mentions bluesky as an alternative to big tech.

                              Pretty sure they only mention it as an alternative to musk/X.

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                              • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                                If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                                Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

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                                Not Lemmy though. Based.

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                                • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.worksI [email protected]

                                  I wish he had mentioned Lemmy, but it's understandable that he didn't. Also Bluesky isn't an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn't stealing so much of our publicity lately.

                                  But beggars can't be choosers, and we have seen some nice growth over the past couple months. John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.

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                                  John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.

                                  Too late - we are already here!:-P

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                                  • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.worksI [email protected]

                                    I wish he had mentioned Lemmy, but it's understandable that he didn't. Also Bluesky isn't an alternative to big tech, it IS big tech. I wish it wasn't stealing so much of our publicity lately.

                                    But beggars can't be choosers, and we have seen some nice growth over the past couple months. John Oliver fans are the perfect candidates to join the fediverse, hopefully some of them find their way to Lemmy.

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                                    I agree, but I also think we should remember a loss for musk is a win for society

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                                      "Public benefit corporation" is a meaningless designation. All it means is they have the option of putting their mission over their shareholders, not that they are obligated to do so.

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                                        Not Lemmy though. Based.

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                                        Yeah I think it's best we don't advertise this place. It's a little strange.

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                                        • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                                          If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                                          Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

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                                          Senpai noticed me!!

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