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    That us cheap. Many places charge ~$250K. But then you own a house and can sell it later...

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      That us cheap. Many places charge ~$250K. But then you own a house and can sell it later...

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      That's for actual residency. This seems to be able to exist in the country digitally. Other countries, like Estonia, have the same thing.

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        That us cheap. Many places charge ~$250K. But then you own a house and can sell it later...

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        And when you do that with Canada, you make a tidy profit!

        Then again, if you can find a house anywhere in the country, with running water, for less than a mil, there's a gov analyst job waiting for you too!

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          And when you do that with Canada, you make a tidy profit!

          Then again, if you can find a house anywhere in the country, with running water, for less than a mil, there's a gov analyst job waiting for you too!

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          Is well water fine? There are some nice but small houses in northern Alberta.

          I look at real estate listings a lot to avoid doom scrolling.

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            That's for actual residency. This seems to be able to exist in the country digitally. Other countries, like Estonia, have the same thing.

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            Ah, thank you.

            Used to be the DOJ had an expansive view of USA sovereignty. Guess we will see.

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              That us cheap. Many places charge ~$250K. But then you own a house and can sell it later...

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              The whole point of this card is basically to bypass KYC requirements for crypto exchanges that don't allow US customers. They are very explicit about this in their marketing.

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                That's for actual residency. This seems to be able to exist in the country digitally. Other countries, like Estonia, have the same thing.

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                It can technically be used to extend your stay in Palau long enough to establish tax residency since it would allow you to stay in Palau for longer than 183 days a year. Not unusual for people sitting on big crypto stashes to move abroad or buy citizenships in order to cash out their crypto without capital gains tax (or at least that's how it goes - I imagine the IRS doesn't go down that easily).

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                  It can technically be used to extend your stay in Palau long enough to establish tax residency since it would allow you to stay in Palau for longer than 183 days a year. Not unusual for people sitting on big crypto stashes to move abroad or buy citizenships in order to cash out their crypto without capital gains tax (or at least that's how it goes - I imagine the IRS doesn't go down that easily).

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                  The "substantial presence test" is more complicated than you might have thought: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/substantial-presence-test

                  If you spent a full 210 days (30 days from a visa on arrival followed by 2 consecutive 90-day extensions) each year in Palau, but spent the remainder of every year in the USA, you would be physically present in the United States (U.S.) on at least "183 days during the 3-year period that includes the current year and the 2 years immediately before that". Specifically, the "count" would be 232.5 (instead of 465 since days in earlier years are counted as 1/3 or 1/6), which is at least 183.

                  It seems the easiest way to avoid being considered a United States resident for tax purposes from meeting the substantial presence test is to not be physically present in the United States (U.S.) on at least 31 days during the current year. If you wanted to do that, there are many places where most United States citizens are already allowed to stay for "365 days" or "1 year" or "Unlimited", notably including Palau, as well as Marshall Islands and Albania and other countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_United_States_citizens

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