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Amazon Boycot March 7-14th | No Purchases. Its time to disrupt the system.

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  • irreticent@lemmy.zipI [email protected]

    Accelerationism is not the best way forward.

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    What's the best way forward then?

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      Is this a joke? Like 2k people on fedi don't buy anything from Amazon for a week?

      These "economic blackout"s are completely futile. Especially if they only target a single service, or if they target a service as big as Amazon. If this blackout is for everything Amazon operates, you can't use Twitch, or Fire TV, or Prime Video, or Fire devices, or Kindles, or any website that is run with AWS. You think normies are going to sacrifice all of that ease of use for a week, and even if in some alternate dimension they have any self control over their consumption, they'll just go back to using Amazon.

      Amazon will survive for 7 days. What about people all around the world that quite frankly don't give a fuck about uspol? What about subscriptions? Invincible 3x8 comes out in this time period? Nobody will watch it? People will stop using a third of the Internet, their streaming slop devices, their e-celeb propaganda outlets? It simply won't happen.

      These blackouts are an immature way to "break the system, man". They completely ignore the reasons why normies go to the slop mill in the first place. The general population has 0 self control over their spending. They will consume, and consume, and consume, until they die.

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      • kraiden@kbin.earthK [email protected]

        No, you come on. You're are misrepresenting what I actually said. If you actually read my post, you'll see that I plan to participate in the boycott regardless. I made a throwaway comment about how it would be "mildly inconvenient" that I'd miss the opening, but also that I would do it regardless.

        So what, I'm not even allowed to acknowledge that Prime has stuff I'm interested in? I have to boycott it, and deny that it holds any value whatsoever?

        That's bullshit. It's entirely possible to both acknowledge that there are decent Amazon produced shows AND think that the company is evil as fuck and want to boycott them.

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        And here you've encountered first hand why these protests don't work.

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          Or use it as a product search engine, then go to the supplier or an alternate online store to buy the one you want. I don't have it on my phone but do go to it in browser occasionally for that.

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          This is what I often do. Handy since search engines are worthless anymore.

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            That boycott had a demand attached, to prevent the sinking of the Brent Spar buoy. Effectively "unlimited" boycott until Shell gave into the demand.

            This and the last no shop Friday thing seem mostly pointless. I mean fuck Amazon for sure but shouldn't there be some goal? "Boycott Amazon until X, Y, and Z" not "No buy from Amazon for a week but then we'll be back so no worries!"

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            The implicit demand is to stop supporting fascists.

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              Sounds like an excuse to not get started.

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              It sounds like a call to avoid symbolic action and take meaningful action instead, to me.

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                I week long boycott will do nothing. If that is the most you are prepared to inconvenience yourself to send a message, then just give up now.

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                Hard disagree. If you ask people to make a temporary change that still feels achievable, they're more likely to at least give it a shot, and many of those people will spend some time considering alternatives. Once the week is up, some people may even choose to continue boycotting Amazon, or at least reduce their spending there.

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                  Or how about you just stop buying from that cancerous blight on our society altogether?

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                    Agreed. Better to make it a month or two. This gives you time to find replacement companies and then hopefully never return to Amazon.

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                    Or just stop using them entirely, right now, because the only service they have an uncontested lead in is, ironically, audiobooks.

                    I know, I know. You might have to physically go to a store. The HORROR.

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                      Amazon has the masses enthralled

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                      But if I pay $20 a month I don't have to spend $15 on shipping!

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                        Or how about you just stop buying from that cancerous blight on our society altogether?

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                        Haven't bought almost anything from Amazon in decades. I think Jeff Bezos got like 13 $ from me. Ever. Period.

                        There have always been better or just as good deals elsewhere (i.e. eBay). And I think that people do not realize that more than 50% of offered stuff can be obtained CHEAPER when bought directly from the seller/producer.

                        Just write an eMail and... off you go.

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                          It sounds like a call to avoid symbolic action and take meaningful action instead, to me.

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                          I don't think advocating people do nothing while vaguely gesturing at doing more while offering no alternatives or next steps is meaningful action.

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                          • sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.comS [email protected]

                            Is this a joke? Like 2k people on fedi don't buy anything from Amazon for a week?

                            These "economic blackout"s are completely futile. Especially if they only target a single service, or if they target a service as big as Amazon. If this blackout is for everything Amazon operates, you can't use Twitch, or Fire TV, or Prime Video, or Fire devices, or Kindles, or any website that is run with AWS. You think normies are going to sacrifice all of that ease of use for a week, and even if in some alternate dimension they have any self control over their consumption, they'll just go back to using Amazon.

                            Amazon will survive for 7 days. What about people all around the world that quite frankly don't give a fuck about uspol? What about subscriptions? Invincible 3x8 comes out in this time period? Nobody will watch it? People will stop using a third of the Internet, their streaming slop devices, their e-celeb propaganda outlets? It simply won't happen.

                            These blackouts are an immature way to "break the system, man". They completely ignore the reasons why normies go to the slop mill in the first place. The general population has 0 self control over their spending. They will consume, and consume, and consume, until they die.

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                            Wellp, at least we can torrent the new Invincible season

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                              Wellp, at least we can torrent the new Invincible season

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                              Shit's great

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                                I don't think advocating people do nothing while vaguely gesturing at doing more while offering no alternatives or next steps is meaningful action.

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                                I don't think what you describe is meaningful action either.

                                Do I understand that you agree the proposed "blackout" is symbolic, and that you wish there were something more meaningful being proposed; or are you defending the blackout as meaningful itself? Do you agree with the criticism of the blackout's being symbolic, but want to go along with it despite its lack of meaning (or perhaps better stated, lack of effect)?

                                For my part, I'd be much more pleased with the idea of the blackout if I could be convinced that it would have useful results, and would generally be in favor of so-called "meaningful action." This blackout wouldn't effect me either way since I've already given up amazon and google stuff almost entirely except what I need for work. I just need to know what the meaningful next step would be.

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                                  Even people that use Amazon surely are most likely to not buy stuff in any typical week? I just stopped using it.

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                                    Haven't bought almost anything from Amazon in decades. I think Jeff Bezos got like 13 $ from me. Ever. Period.

                                    There have always been better or just as good deals elsewhere (i.e. eBay). And I think that people do not realize that more than 50% of offered stuff can be obtained CHEAPER when bought directly from the seller/producer.

                                    Just write an eMail and... off you go.

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                                    One thing Amazon is better at (at least here in Germany) is free shipping. But seeing how that is a least partially responsible for creating a cutthroat delivery market, where companies contract out delivery work to barely self-employed drivers for barely any money, paying for shipping doesn't seem like a bad idea (even though I know the drivers won't really see any of that money in the end)

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                                      I don't think what you describe is meaningful action either.

                                      Do I understand that you agree the proposed "blackout" is symbolic, and that you wish there were something more meaningful being proposed; or are you defending the blackout as meaningful itself? Do you agree with the criticism of the blackout's being symbolic, but want to go along with it despite its lack of meaning (or perhaps better stated, lack of effect)?

                                      For my part, I'd be much more pleased with the idea of the blackout if I could be convinced that it would have useful results, and would generally be in favor of so-called "meaningful action." This blackout wouldn't effect me either way since I've already given up amazon and google stuff almost entirely except what I need for work. I just need to know what the meaningful next step would be.

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                                      If we were to assume that everyone would just wait until the 15th to do all their amazon orders that they waited a week for then I would agree it's symbolic.

                                      For many, this will be what happens, but for some, they will find an alternative. Then maybe in the future they chose that alternative too. It's about gradual progress towards better alternatives. For you, maybe finding ways to make your work less reliant on those things would help. Or if that's not possible maybe working somewhere else that doesn't make you sacrifice your values.

                                      As an example, one person choosing to educate themselves on animal welfare might not have much effect today, or tomorrow, or even next week. But after years, even small changes can mean the elimination of suffering for dozens or hundreds of lives.

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                                        I already started my boycott last month.

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                                          Americans really dont know how to protest...

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