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What would happen to a bystander who physically intervened, but then was overwhelmed?

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    What would happen to a bystander who physically intervened, but then was overwhelmed? Could they be get assaulting a federal officer charge, or would that be dropped because they do not show proper identification? Asking for humanity

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    They would for sure catch charges. The days of having to do something illegal in order to be convicted are behind us. If the MAGAstappo get their way the only remaining function of the judicial system will be as a cudgel against their enemies.

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      Yes.

      Remember, the Nazis executed a college girl, by beheading, for handing out flyers.

      Brown shirts would kill Jews on the streets.

      ICE has been turned into the SS.

      MAGAts are Nazis, expect them to behave like Nazis.

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      ICE is more Gestapo. Not the SS

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        ICE is more Gestapo. Not the SS

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        I’d argue they are his stormtroopers. Masks and all.

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          I’d argue they are his stormtroopers. Masks and all.

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          The Gestapo was the (secret) police. While the SS was a military group for all kinds of things. But they shot first, ask questions later

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            Yes.

            Remember, the Nazis executed a college girl, by beheading, for handing out flyers.

            Brown shirts would kill Jews on the streets.

            ICE has been turned into the SS.

            MAGAts are Nazis, expect them to behave like Nazis.

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            The White Rose

            Rip Hans Scholl and Sophie Scholl

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              What would happen to a bystander who physically intervened, but then was overwhelmed? Could they be get assaulting a federal officer charge, or would that be dropped because they do not show proper identification? Asking for humanity

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              If you got physical before they identified as police they would subdue you and then identity. That’s why there’s 8 of them for one arrest.

              I think you’d have a good chance of getting off the numerous charges against you after sitting in jail and incurring thousands in legal fees.

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                If you got physical before they identified as police they would subdue you and then identity. That’s why there’s 8 of them for one arrest.

                I think you’d have a good chance of getting off the numerous charges against you after sitting in jail and incurring thousands in legal fees.

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                Shoot first, find out they are a pig after.

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                  If you got physical before they identified as police they would subdue you and then identity. That’s why there’s 8 of them for one arrest.

                  I think you’d have a good chance of getting off the numerous charges against you after sitting in jail and incurring thousands in legal fees.

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                  getting off the numerous charges against you after sitting in jail

                  Ha! or they just do what they are doing here and ship you of to a place in south america without any due process at all.

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                    What would happen to a bystander who physically intervened, but then was overwhelmed? Could they be get assaulting a federal officer charge, or would that be dropped because they do not show proper identification? Asking for humanity

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                    would that be dropped because they do not show proper identification

                    They have badges on, so I would guess they would get an assaulting a federal office charge yeah.

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                    • goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zoneG [email protected]

                      ICE is more Gestapo. Not the SS

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                      Man Nazi Germany had so many different evil groups it's hard to remember who did what. Yes, gestapo is probably more accurate though

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                        The Gestapo was the (secret) police. While the SS was a military group for all kinds of things. But they shot first, ask questions later

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                        Well, they at least shot first. I dont think they ever bothered to ask questions.

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                          What would happen to a bystander who physically intervened, but then was overwhelmed? Could they be get assaulting a federal officer charge, or would that be dropped because they do not show proper identification? Asking for humanity

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                          What would happen if I shot them?

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                            The Gestapo was the (secret) police. While the SS was a military group for all kinds of things. But they shot first, ask questions later

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                            Stormtroopers are SA not SS

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                              Stormtroopers are SA not SS

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                              No. The SA was the paramilitary dirt boys for the dirty work before they got into power. SA stands for Sturmabteilung. Their job was intimidation and roughening up other politicians.

                              The SS were the nutcases that were used in all kinds of things. Inner security, in military battle, assisting the genocide, helping the gestapo, aso
                              SS stands for Schutzstaffel. As in protection of the Reich

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                                No. The SA was the paramilitary dirt boys for the dirty work before they got into power. SA stands for Sturmabteilung. Their job was intimidation and roughening up other politicians.

                                The SS were the nutcases that were used in all kinds of things. Inner security, in military battle, assisting the genocide, helping the gestapo, aso
                                SS stands for Schutzstaffel. As in protection of the Reich

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                                Like you said one became the other as essentially disenfranchised Germans after world sanctions in the treaty of Versailles.

                                If you put a gun in a starving man’s hand and point it at a meal they’ll shoot or becoming anything every time

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                                  Man Nazi Germany had so many different evil groups it's hard to remember who did what. Yes, gestapo is probably more accurate though

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                                  They didnt have many. Gestapa/Gestapo, Wehrmacht (land military) , SS, Hitlerjugend (HJ), Bund deutscher Mädel (BDM), SA (defunkt after power take over), Luftwaffe (airforce), Reichsmariene (Navy)

                                  Thats basicly all. And yes the military is as guilty as the rest!

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                                    Like you said one became the other as essentially disenfranchised Germans after world sanctions in the treaty of Versailles.

                                    If you put a gun in a starving man’s hand and point it at a meal they’ll shoot or becoming anything every time

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                                    The SA didnt become the SS. The SS also existed at the same time as the SA but the SA and all part of it got murdered in the night of the long knife.

                                    The german civilians back then had a choice. They werent forced until the very end. They all knew what they got into and what they will with the nazis before they took power. Many chose resistence. Later chanclor Willy Brandt being a good example. All the students that gave their life for the resistance.

                                    The nazi party got banned for a while but as they got unbanned and were tried to get them re banned it was determined by the conservatives them being too powerful now and rather should be rained in politicly, they thought they could control hitler. Ach Paul von Pappen and von Hindenburg, the later even once being ally of hitler for a while.

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                                      The SA didnt become the SS. The SS also existed at the same time as the SA but the SA and all part of it got murdered in the night of the long knife.

                                      The german civilians back then had a choice. They werent forced until the very end. They all knew what they got into and what they will with the nazis before they took power. Many chose resistence. Later chanclor Willy Brandt being a good example. All the students that gave their life for the resistance.

                                      The nazi party got banned for a while but as they got unbanned and were tried to get them re banned it was determined by the conservatives them being too powerful now and rather should be rained in politicly, they thought they could control hitler. Ach Paul von Pappen and von Hindenburg, the later even once being ally of hitler for a while.

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                                      This is what I kinda keep saying. Trump isn’t hitler he’s Hindenburg. Hitler was a foreign national appointed chancellor.

                                      Aka an unelected official taking control of the gov sounds pretty familiar

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