The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg says ‘public interest’ served by full Signal chat release

[bertramditore@lemm.ee]

Goldberg assumed it was fake, but he waited for the attacks to happen for confirmation, which they did. Perhaps people are a bit smarter than you think.

I did believe that I was the target of a disinformation campaign. And so when I got the text at 11:44 a.m. saying that at 1:30 p.m. bombs will start falling in Yemen, I thought to myself, 'Well, if there is actually an American attack at 1:30 p.m., then I'll know that that this that the Signal chat is real and I have to I have to consider my next steps.' "

[fancypantsfire@lemm.ee]

“It’s all fake, and even if it’s not no sensitive information was leaked, and even if it was the operation was a resounding success.”

[cidvicious@sh.itjust.works]

If they're going to pretend it wasn't classified, proving otherwise makes sense.

[cheers_queers@lemm.ee]

I hope he has some good fuckin security measures in place

[jballs@sh.itjust.works]

The Daily Show did a pretty good segment yesterday highlighting the absurdity of their response about how this data didn't count as being "war plans":

https://youtu.be/dkK_F9wxyr8

It's absolute insanity that they're trying to spin this as not being classified or even sensitive info.

[peoplebeproblems@midwest.social]

The part that made me chuckle is when they said it wasn't classified information.

Like the dude had screenshots of the chat. You really going to try to say that?

Dumbasses in power: Yes.

[cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

Let's play along here for a moment. Let's say it wasn't classified.

The question remains: why wasn't military action that was imminent classified? If the Yemen military generals were invited to the chat, would they have been okay?

I mean, we all know why they are saying that it was unclassified.

But the question I want answered is why this excuse?

[deranger@sh.itjust.works]

I think it’s because your average person doesn’t know the difference between classified and sensitive information.

Classified or not is mostly a moot point to me. It’s still extremely sensitive information and I’ve seen servicemembers get fucked over for much more minor infractions, like posting on Facebook when they’re going to be deployed or leave port.

[b3an@lemmy.world]

Why ‘Public interest’ like that? Is that not a legitimate reason to call out the government when it fucks up? They were doing pretty illegal shit. Imagine if Obama cabinet members pulled this shit. There has to be accountability.

[peoplebeproblems@midwest.social]

Specifically, it was advanced tactical knowledge. Had the Houthis received the plans, they could have:

A. Evacuated
B. Filled it with civilians
C. Set up a defense and counter act
D. All of the above
E. Something worse?

It opened up the pilots to considerable harm. I don't know enough about the conflict to state an opinion one way or another, but sharing that information itself is stupid. From what I know, Houthis have modern defense systems capable of taking down F-18s

[ripcord@lemmy.world]

But they're still claiming this in different ways.

[cosmicturtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com]

We clearly have different rules for different levels of government.

Hate on Hilary all you want: storing classified material on a personal server would have gotten any other government civilian thrown in jail. Using one personal phone for government work would have also gotten you thrown in jail.

Same with Trump and Biden.

It doesn't help things that these assholes knew full well what they were doing and didn't want to follow existing procedures. And they likely won't get charged or punished for it.

[thereturnofpeb@reddthat.com]

He who saves his Country does not violate any Law

is a two way chariot track

[sc00ter@lemm.ee]

Unlike that missile in Yemen! Amirite?

^Too ^soon?

[Guest]

We’re sitting on pins and needles waiting for the next Hans litten to happen.

[sc00ter@lemm.ee]

While i know nothing about military intelligence Security Classification Guides,i know a thing about some others. The general idea is, even at a Confidential Classification, release of the information/data could reasonable cause damage to the USA/national security/etc. The different levels of classification (confidential, secret, top secret) only vary based on the severity of the damage cause to the united states.

Everything in me tells me this operation was classified and we're lucky that it only leaked to 1 person in the US while it was still time sensitive. Also, these things dont immediately unclassify as soon as their done. They security guide holds them classified for a certain period of time after the event. So dont be surprised when they come after the Editor for leaking classified information

[gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works]

The Atlantic editors redacted things from the chat that they felt were likely dangerous, even after the dipshits in government went “lol you got nothing” and subsequently switched their story to “nothing’s important in there” (and there clearly was). That’s a level of journalistic integrity that makes me want to give them a subscription, honestly.

[gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works]

Not to mention the staggeringly comical and insane double standard.

[jballs@sh.itjust.works]

Someone just told me they're trying to spin it as not being as incompetent as the Afghanistan pullout.

I swear to God, Republicans are incapable of going "my bad, that was my mistake." Instead they just spin spin spin and attack attack attack.

[jaybone@lemmy.world]

And if it’s not fake, the president can declassify it just by thinking it.