Well, when you put it that way
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The tragedy of Romeo and Juliet is not that they died for their love; it's that they're too young to realize that their love wasn't worth dying for. It's a cautionary tale about the follies and passion of youth, not a love story.
Edit: alright, it's about a lot of things.
That seems like it still counts as a love story then, or at least "romance" given that that's primarily what it's plot and themes revolve around. What qualifies something to be a love story if not that?
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I thought it was a cautionary tale about parents who overreact to their children's relationships without realizing that if they just let them be they'll break up on their own.
It's also a story about how feuds are largely arbitrary, and holding grudges against entire families/bloodlines is just tragically pointless eye-for-an-eye behavior that eventually leads to your children being so blind that they commit suicide for basically no reason.
It's a bunch of themes in a trench coat!
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The tv comedy Upstart Crow brilliantly skewers Romeo & Juliet along with Shakespeare. I forget which episode, but it's only 3 seasons and they're all fantastic.
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I know it’s a book shop, but it’s still weird to me putting primacy on reading the script of the play rather than watching it in a theatre. It’s like saying “anyone who’s read the Die Hard novelisation knows how hectic the Christmas holidays can be”.
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The tragedy of Romeo and Juliet is not that they died for their love; it's that they're too young to realize that their love wasn't worth dying for. It's a cautionary tale about the follies and passion of youth, not a love story.
Edit: alright, it's about a lot of things.
Def not worth dying for
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Well of course. It's a tragedy. Not a romance. That's stated upfront even.
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Literally don't remember half those deaths. I gotta re read that again. Or watch the DiCaprio flick...
The Baz Luhrmann movie is definitely worth a rewatch.
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I know it’s a book shop, but it’s still weird to me putting primacy on reading the script of the play rather than watching it in a theatre. It’s like saying “anyone who’s read the Die Hard novelisation knows how hectic the Christmas holidays can be”.
Especially since Die Hard is based on a novel.
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Well of course. It's a tragedy. Not a romance. That's stated upfront even.
It's a tragicomedy. The joke is that love is stupid.
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It's a tragicomedy. The joke is that love is stupid.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I don't think that's the joke, beyond a bit of "kids are fucking stupid." There's a lot of commentary out there about it possibly being a satire but it's definitely more tragedy than comedy. Midsummer Night's Dream is the comedy about whirlwind romance.
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I know it’s a book shop, but it’s still weird to me putting primacy on reading the script of the play rather than watching it in a theatre. It’s like saying “anyone who’s read the Die Hard novelisation knows how hectic the Christmas holidays can be”.
You're right. But somehow, you've also composed this bookshop's next sign...
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ThatsTheWholePoint.jpg(This was largely Shakespeare's criticism of young love)
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I only take issue with "read it". Shakespeare wrote plays. They were meant to be performed and seen, not read. "Do you bite your thumb at me?" makes a lot more sense when it's done by a good actor.
If their first introduction to Star Wars was reading the script, kids would hate that, too. Having a script can be useful for analyzing and referencing things--I do have a book of the OG Star Wars trilogy scripts--but it shouldn't be the default way we enjoy it.
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I only take issue with "read it". Shakespeare wrote plays. They were meant to be performed and seen, not read. "Do you bite your thumb at me?" makes a lot more sense when it's done by a good actor.
If their first introduction to Star Wars was reading the script, kids would hate that, too. Having a script can be useful for analyzing and referencing things--I do have a book of the OG Star Wars trilogy scripts--but it shouldn't be the default way we enjoy it.
I think this depends on your level of imagination. When I read books there is definitely a play going on in my head of the events as they unfold.
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The tv comedy Upstart Crow brilliantly skewers Romeo & Juliet along with Shakespeare. I forget which episode, but it's only 3 seasons and they're all fantastic.
Oh yes, the clever young woman points out a few things, eg the plot is VERY similar to a much earlier story, where the girl is 17, not 13. And Romeo's age is never mentioned. "Bit weird isn't it, Mr Shakespeare?"
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The tv comedy Upstart Crow brilliantly skewers Romeo & Juliet along with Shakespeare. I forget which episode, but it's only 3 seasons and they're all fantastic.
Oh yes, the clever young woman points out a few things, eg the plot is VERY similar to a much earlier story, where the girl is 17, not 13. And Romeo's age is never mentioned. "Bit weird isn't it, Mr Shakespeare?"
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The Baz Luhrmann movie is definitely worth a rewatch.
Nice I'll have to check it out!
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I only take issue with "read it". Shakespeare wrote plays. They were meant to be performed and seen, not read. "Do you bite your thumb at me?" makes a lot more sense when it's done by a good actor.
If their first introduction to Star Wars was reading the script, kids would hate that, too. Having a script can be useful for analyzing and referencing things--I do have a book of the OG Star Wars trilogy scripts--but it shouldn't be the default way we enjoy it.
IMO even a film adaptation is missing something compared to the experience of a live play, let alone just reading the script.
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I don't think that's the joke, beyond a bit of "kids are fucking stupid." There's a lot of commentary out there about it possibly being a satire but it's definitely more tragedy than comedy. Midsummer Night's Dream is the comedy about whirlwind romance.
with the right soundtrack it’s a comedy
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It's also a story about how feuds are largely arbitrary, and holding grudges against entire families/bloodlines is just tragically pointless eye-for-an-eye behavior that eventually leads to your children being so blind that they commit suicide for basically no reason.
It's a bunch of themes in a trench coat!
It could also be interpreted as a George Bluth-esque extreme "always leave a note" lesson.
If you're going to fake your suicide to get your crazy family off your back so you can be with your lover, always leave your lover a note explaining what you're doing or you'll both end up dead.
