No but seriously. Why the gaps?
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As an American, experiencing European toilet stalls was one of the first tangible experiences where I was like “woah we are definitely doing it wrong”. Thanks, uh…Europe.
Except for the ones where you have to pay, I can do without that.
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I am, of course, an environmental storytelling toilet skeleton in a European bathroom.
Spoopy, literally?
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Except for the ones where you have to pay, I can do without that.
If it means I'm getting a clean toilet, I'd rather pay a Euro for that
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If it means I'm getting a clean toilet, I'd rather pay a Euro for that
I remember some pretty nasty pay toilets in Germany, but it of course varies.
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I think it's because bathrooms are cost, and so they got enshitified early to discourage costumers from using them.
But where are the costumers supposed to change costume if not in a stall?
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Even worse are the urinals without dividers.
Ever used a trough?
It’s almost like that
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The only reasonable reason I've heard is it makes it easier to clean/prevent mold growth. Like y'all don't need to worry about drug users at the office.
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A duodecimal system would have been so much nicer.
Everyone loves a library!
I think that's the Dewey decimal system, which inspired the Chewy decimal system, which is the next innovation in grocery store layouts.
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Ever used a trough?
It’s almost like that
Ugh, the county fair piss trough
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The only reasonable reason I've heard is it makes it easier to clean/prevent mold growth. Like y'all don't need to worry about drug users at the office.
You'd be surprised.
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If it means I'm getting a clean toilet, I'd rather pay a Euro for that
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It's never an either/or situation. Like, what, that Euro pays for someone to rush in after every use? Or is it a meaningless transaction meant to cause difficulty.
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As an American, experiencing European toilet stalls was one of the first tangible experiences where I was like “woah we are definitely doing it wrong”. Thanks, uh…Europe.
Going to Tokyo and every toilet being a sing-along butt rinser made me realized western toilets are barbaric.
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I think they just suck at carpentry, amongst other things. Doors are haaaard.
Doors being hard doesn't explain it, since they're not a problem for the rest of the world (which is the vast majority of it).
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Really? That's what I'd expect even in a run-down public toilet in a train station over here in Austria.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]-over here in insert anywhere but the US.
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- Cheaper
- So they can be sure you're not secksing or drugging
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But where are the costumers supposed to change costume if not in a stall?
That's a great point.
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The stalls at my work have zero gaps whatsoever and the door/walls (which are made of wood) go almost to the floor. There's fairly high quality locking handles that indicate whether or not it's occupied. It's amazing and I don't know of any other public restroom in my area like it.
I've worked a couple places where the stalls were like that. There are fixtures they can add to the gaps to cut them off.
Also, places that have all-gender group restrooms typically install gapless stalls because of obvious reasons.
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Really? That's what I'd expect even in a run-down public toilet in a train station over here in Austria.
Y'all have standards. Rights, even.
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Depends. What takes up a stall for longer, a good fuck or a good shit?
A good fuck should last much longer than a good shit...
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It makes no difference cost wise to save a few cms of wood.
The cost savings is not only in materials. For manufacturing, lower quality materials and larger tolerances. Time to install and repair is lower because of how open the design is. Time to clean is lower because you can just soak the floor and mop without worrying about each stalls' corners.
Brutal efficiency at the cost of comfort and privacy is what capitalism is all about. The US is just used to it and somehow also incredibly puritanical.
That said, efficiency isn't a bad thing. There are some countries with some bathrooms that don't have stalls - legit indoor public bathrooms where you just squat over a hole or urinals that are just one long wide trough. It's about what you are used to.
Nah I refuse to accept its for efficiency or cost savings. Thats so negligible no one would bring it up. Especially at the scale these are being constructed.
Ive seen a ton of arguments like "oh its to save costs installing if the floor is uneven" or "it gives leeway for different cuts" or "its for cleaning" but these are things can can easily be designed around without having a gap that leaves the user exposed. Either Americans are to stupid to design around this constraint (they aren't) or theyre intentionally leaving it in for some reasons and there is plenty of speculation on the reasons.
