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    simply being Greenlandic will be enough to get the attention of social workers.

    The tests cover attachment, personality traits, cognitive abilities and psychopathology, and take about 15-20 hours. It is almost impossible to pass them, says Nellemann; even he and his colleagues have failed to do so.

    I remember reading about this late last year, and I remember not trusting that social worker or the process one bit.
    I once watched a documentary about this kind of "social service" and some of their methods are 100% unscientific, and don't take personality traits or just moods into account, like whether a person is extro- or introvert. I even posted about it on feddit.dk, but was met with much skepticism. One of the things I saw, was that if a baby doesn't seek eye contact with a stranger holding it, it should be a sign that the mother doesn't give the baby enough attention! Yes really it's that stupid! When obviously it's more likely the baby doesn't appreciate a stranger.

    I can't put into words how much I despise that kind of quackery! Because that's what it is.
    But quackery is unfortunately standard procedure in social services. And social services even trump real doctors, meaning quackery trumps real doctors by law!!
    Quackery is illegal in Denmark, except in social services where it's an everyday phenomenon.

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      simply being Greenlandic will be enough to get the attention of social workers.

      The tests cover attachment, personality traits, cognitive abilities and psychopathology, and take about 15-20 hours. It is almost impossible to pass them, says Nellemann; even he and his colleagues have failed to do so.

      I remember reading about this late last year, and I remember not trusting that social worker or the process one bit.
      I once watched a documentary about this kind of "social service" and some of their methods are 100% unscientific, and don't take personality traits or just moods into account, like whether a person is extro- or introvert. I even posted about it on feddit.dk, but was met with much skepticism. One of the things I saw, was that if a baby doesn't seek eye contact with a stranger holding it, it should be a sign that the mother doesn't give the baby enough attention! Yes really it's that stupid! When obviously it's more likely the baby doesn't appreciate a stranger.

      I can't put into words how much I despise that kind of quackery! Because that's what it is.
      But quackery is unfortunately standard procedure in social services. And social services even trump real doctors, meaning quackery trumps real doctors by law!!
      Quackery is illegal in Denmark, except in social services where it's an everyday phenomenon.

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      I haven't read the article yet (sneaking Lemmy time at work), but this reminds of the literacy tests they used to use for voting in the US for black folks

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        simply being Greenlandic will be enough to get the attention of social workers.

        The tests cover attachment, personality traits, cognitive abilities and psychopathology, and take about 15-20 hours. It is almost impossible to pass them, says Nellemann; even he and his colleagues have failed to do so.

        I remember reading about this late last year, and I remember not trusting that social worker or the process one bit.
        I once watched a documentary about this kind of "social service" and some of their methods are 100% unscientific, and don't take personality traits or just moods into account, like whether a person is extro- or introvert. I even posted about it on feddit.dk, but was met with much skepticism. One of the things I saw, was that if a baby doesn't seek eye contact with a stranger holding it, it should be a sign that the mother doesn't give the baby enough attention! Yes really it's that stupid! When obviously it's more likely the baby doesn't appreciate a stranger.

        I can't put into words how much I despise that kind of quackery! Because that's what it is.
        But quackery is unfortunately standard procedure in social services. And social services even trump real doctors, meaning quackery trumps real doctors by law!!
        Quackery is illegal in Denmark, except in social services where it's an everyday phenomenon.

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        France makes great use of quacks. Gordon Ramsey has some instructional videos.

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          simply being Greenlandic will be enough to get the attention of social workers.

          The tests cover attachment, personality traits, cognitive abilities and psychopathology, and take about 15-20 hours. It is almost impossible to pass them, says Nellemann; even he and his colleagues have failed to do so.

          I remember reading about this late last year, and I remember not trusting that social worker or the process one bit.
          I once watched a documentary about this kind of "social service" and some of their methods are 100% unscientific, and don't take personality traits or just moods into account, like whether a person is extro- or introvert. I even posted about it on feddit.dk, but was met with much skepticism. One of the things I saw, was that if a baby doesn't seek eye contact with a stranger holding it, it should be a sign that the mother doesn't give the baby enough attention! Yes really it's that stupid! When obviously it's more likely the baby doesn't appreciate a stranger.

          I can't put into words how much I despise that kind of quackery! Because that's what it is.
          But quackery is unfortunately standard procedure in social services. And social services even trump real doctors, meaning quackery trumps real doctors by law!!
          Quackery is illegal in Denmark, except in social services where it's an everyday phenomenon.

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          It’s worth copying that whole section, rather than just the first sentence. This shit is horrific and blatantly racist

          The tests cover attachment, personality traits, cognitive abilities and psychopathology, and take about 15-20 hours. It is almost impossible to pass them, says Nellemann; even he and his colleagues have failed to do so. Questions can include “What is glass made of?” and “What is the name of the big staircase in Rome?” Nellemann argues that the tests are culturally specific and a poor way to measure innate intelligence. “There is a lot of stigmatisation of people from Greenland,” he says. “We don’t know why we should use these tests for parenting.”

          When Keira was given the test, for Zammi, she says she was told it was to see if she was ‘civilised enough’

          He even goes so far as to compare the tests to a tool of fascism. “You take only one kind of people as the ‘real’ ones. We only choose the white, or ‘real’, Danish people.”

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          • dharmacurious@slrpnk.netD [email protected]

            I haven't read the article yet (sneaking Lemmy time at work), but this reminds of the literacy tests they used to use for voting in the US for black folks

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            Exactly what popped into my head too. They also had questions that were ambiguous. "What's the big staircase in Rome?" doesn't really have a single correct answer much like many of the literacy tests in the Jim Crow south.

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              simply being Greenlandic will be enough to get the attention of social workers.

              The tests cover attachment, personality traits, cognitive abilities and psychopathology, and take about 15-20 hours. It is almost impossible to pass them, says Nellemann; even he and his colleagues have failed to do so.

              I remember reading about this late last year, and I remember not trusting that social worker or the process one bit.
              I once watched a documentary about this kind of "social service" and some of their methods are 100% unscientific, and don't take personality traits or just moods into account, like whether a person is extro- or introvert. I even posted about it on feddit.dk, but was met with much skepticism. One of the things I saw, was that if a baby doesn't seek eye contact with a stranger holding it, it should be a sign that the mother doesn't give the baby enough attention! Yes really it's that stupid! When obviously it's more likely the baby doesn't appreciate a stranger.

              I can't put into words how much I despise that kind of quackery! Because that's what it is.
              But quackery is unfortunately standard procedure in social services. And social services even trump real doctors, meaning quackery trumps real doctors by law!!
              Quackery is illegal in Denmark, except in social services where it's an everyday phenomenon.

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              One of the things I saw, was that if a baby doesn’t seek eye contact with a stranger holding it, it should be a sign that the mother doesn’t give the baby enough attention!

              That's so messed up. Newborns are born with poor vision. "At birth, an infant is very sensitive to bright light. You may notice how small their pupils look, limiting how much light enters their eyes. A newborn baby can see something next to them with their peripheral (side) vision, but their central vision is still developing."

              It takes time for their vision to develop. From that same source, "At about 1 month, your baby may focus briefly on you, but may still prefer brightly colored objects up to 3 feet away. Infants are able to see across a room even at birth, but they are mostly interested in objects very close to them."

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              • dharmacurious@slrpnk.netD [email protected]

                I haven't read the article yet (sneaking Lemmy time at work), but this reminds of the literacy tests they used to use for voting in the US for black folks

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                Because they are the same thing

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