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How does a layperson do a differential diagnosis?

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    In a crossword or other fun Clue-like puzzle type sense, not anything life-affecting.

    What questions would you generally ask

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      In a crossword or other fun Clue-like puzzle type sense, not anything life-affecting.

      What questions would you generally ask

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      They don't. That's for the expert who has experience to decide.

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        They don't. That's for the expert who has experience to decide.

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        A "Clue" expert?

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          A "Clue" expert?

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          Ah misunderstood the question.

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            In a crossword or other fun Clue-like puzzle type sense, not anything life-affecting.

            What questions would you generally ask

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            Given this definition: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diagnostics/22327-differential-diagnosis

            Your healthcare provider will compile a differential diagnosis, which is a list of conditions that share the same symptoms to help make a final diagnosis. The differential diagnosis will direct your healthcare provider to offer tests to rule out conditions and lead them to find the cause of your symptoms.

            Seems one builds a list of other things that could be the answer. Then one rules those things out.

            Seems a lot like building a hypothesis (ensuring it is falsifiable), and then proving it wrong.

            Edit: In "Clue", I make suggestions in the late game where I expect only one part is falsifiable.

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              They don't. That's for the expert who has experience to decide.

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              I have repeatedly caught those "experts" contradicting their own statements during a diagnosis, a couple times in urgent care when a family member was in serious distress.

              It wasn't intentional on their part, just an oversight, as it happens with all of us.

              I learned to carefully track statements/conditions/limits while diagnosing tech problems in team discussions under pressure. In that environment, anyone can call out a mistake or contradictory statements, as the goal is accurate diagnoses.

              Just because someone is an "expert", doesn't make them infallible.

              Additionally, it's not for them to decide my course of treatment - it's for them to help me understand the risks of different treatments, the likelihood of success, and we decide together.

              I aay this as having just gone through saying no to major surgery that the docs just assumed I would do.

              My body, my choice.

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                In a crossword or other fun Clue-like puzzle type sense, not anything life-affecting.

                What questions would you generally ask

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                This isn't really an answer to your question, but psychiatrist Arthur Kleinman came up with 8 assessment questions for asking patients to describe their conditions. The questions are designed to allow for cultural or spiritual explanations outside of the typical Western medical model.

                • What do you call your problem? What name does it have?
                • What do you think caused your problem?
                • Why do you think it started when it did?
                • What does your sickness do to you? How does it work?
                • How severe is your sickness? How long do you expect it to last?
                • What do you fear most about your illness?
                • What are the biggest problems that your illness has caused for you?
                • What kind of treatment do you think you should receive? What are the most important results you hope to receive from treatment?
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                  This isn't really an answer to your question, but psychiatrist Arthur Kleinman came up with 8 assessment questions for asking patients to describe their conditions. The questions are designed to allow for cultural or spiritual explanations outside of the typical Western medical model.

                  • What do you call your problem? What name does it have?
                  • What do you think caused your problem?
                  • Why do you think it started when it did?
                  • What does your sickness do to you? How does it work?
                  • How severe is your sickness? How long do you expect it to last?
                  • What do you fear most about your illness?
                  • What are the biggest problems that your illness has caused for you?
                  • What kind of treatment do you think you should receive? What are the most important results you hope to receive from treatment?
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                  Love this for entirely different reasons

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