Good story
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Maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain in the world is a much better thing to live for than accruing capital or assuring that people within a certain geographical area have it better than others if you ask me
Sure but that doesn't make it badass.
It does if you succeed
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Hedonism IS pretty badass when done ethically and collectively.
Maximizing pleasure and minimizing pain in the world is a much better thing to live for than accruing capital or assuring that people within a certain geographical area have it better than others if you ask me
wrote last edited by [email protected]The reason why it isn't badass is it prioritizies self over others. Under a hedonistic worldview, your own pleasure matters more than another living beings pain.
It aligns well with capitalism and its inventivization of personal enrichment even if at an expense to others.
In my view being "badass" is taking care of each other, even the supposed "least" amongst us (if we are to believe in such hierarchies), as our superheros and religious figures are written.
There's a reason we have immortalized such figures and I would describe exactly none of them as hedonistic. Rather they often take on incredible personal pain to bring safety and security to others. That is what I would call badass.
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The reason why it isn't badass is it prioritizies self over others. Under a hedonistic worldview, your own pleasure matters more than another living beings pain.
It aligns well with capitalism and its inventivization of personal enrichment even if at an expense to others.
In my view being "badass" is taking care of each other, even the supposed "least" amongst us (if we are to believe in such hierarchies), as our superheros and religious figures are written.
There's a reason we have immortalized such figures and I would describe exactly none of them as hedonistic. Rather they often take on incredible personal pain to bring safety and security to others. That is what I would call badass.
The reason why it isn't badass is it prioritizies self over others
Did you not spot the "ethically and collectively" part? It's very near the start of the comment and invalidates your entire objection.
In my view being "badass" is taking care of each other, even the supposed "least" amongst us
Couldn't agree more if I tried. Except I'd change "even" to "especially". Minimizing of pain, remember?
they often take on incredible personal pain to bring safety and security to others. That is what I would call badass.
Again, ethical and collective hedonism inevitably includes such sacrifice for the common good
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I'm sure the ghost of Jeffery Epstein appreciates your support.
I will generally not fault someone for what they like, but engaging in whatever it is without regard for others is not a recipe for a good society. Sure, don't care what everyone thinks, but there are plenty of reasons to not do something that would bring you pleasure.
Dog, what the fuck?
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It does if you succeed
please define badass
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It suits you, cupcake.
I know, I'm brilliant like that.
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You will feel a lot of guilt and pleasure after a great dose of Fentanyl
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That's not what hedonism is. Hedonism is the pursuit of physical pleasure as the primary purpose in life. The problem with that is our brains are very good at moving our emotional goalposts to adapt to our circumstances, so we end up chasing greater and greater pleasures in a process called the "hedonic treadmill."
Billionaires are a good example of this. They get their kicks from watching their bank account go up and acquiring new things. But their brains quickly adapt to the new "normal", and then they need a higher number or newer thing. It's never enough.
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Dog, what the fuck?
If you don't understand how uncritically engaging in hedonism is bad for society as a whole, I don't know what else to add. You're the one advocating for doing whatever you like with no regard for others.
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If you don't understand how uncritically engaging in hedonism is bad for society as a whole, I don't know what else to add. You're the one advocating for doing whatever you like with no regard for others.
Your concept of Hedonism is uncritical and severely narrow. It is a broad term that encompasses lots of philosophies. For instance social hedonism is about minimizing pain and maximizing pleasure at a societal level. Chasing immediate pleasure for oneself is a popculture definition.
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Watching interracial porn dressed up as Adolf Hitler.
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Your concept of Hedonism is uncritical and severely narrow. It is a broad term that encompasses lots of philosophies. For instance social hedonism is about minimizing pain and maximizing pleasure at a societal level. Chasing immediate pleasure for oneself is a popculture definition.
I said "uncritically engaging in hedonism" is bad. Uncritically engaging in almost anything is bad, but they had said "it's pretty bad ass to be happy regardless of how others judge you" and that does not make any distinction between what does and does not negatively impact others. I have a concept of hedonism, sure, but I did not state it in any of my comments. I'm responding to that persons idea which seems to have no regard for others.
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The reason why it isn't badass is it prioritizies self over others
Did you not spot the "ethically and collectively" part? It's very near the start of the comment and invalidates your entire objection.
In my view being "badass" is taking care of each other, even the supposed "least" amongst us
Couldn't agree more if I tried. Except I'd change "even" to "especially". Minimizing of pain, remember?
they often take on incredible personal pain to bring safety and security to others. That is what I would call badass.
Again, ethical and collective hedonism inevitably includes such sacrifice for the common good
wrote last edited by [email protected]Collective hedonism is an abstract ideal that has not quite had any real world application. I have met quite a few hedonistic individuals but have yet to see a successfully and consistently hedonistic group. It's hard to get a large group to agree on what is meaningfully pleasurable. For the purposes of this discussion it's too abstract to be relevant and even if it was I'm still not quite sure why it would be 'badass' as doing the pleasurable thing often does not coincide with doing the right thing.
Collective pleasure does not exist with any degree of permanence but collective prevention of harm absolutely does, and often requires sacrifice / hardship, which is what I would define as "badass"
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Sounds more like the musings of a hedonist than a badass. The incoordination and head trauma are not as far off brand as he thinks it is.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I think the badass part was the presentation, which made immediately tripping on a wire all the more embarrassing.
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That's not what hedonism is. Hedonism is the pursuit of physical pleasure as the primary purpose in life. The problem with that is our brains are very good at moving our emotional goalposts to adapt to our circumstances, so we end up chasing greater and greater pleasures in a process called the "hedonic treadmill."
Billionaires are a good example of this. They get their kicks from watching their bank account go up and acquiring new things. But their brains quickly adapt to the new "normal", and then they need a higher number or newer thing. It's never enough.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Notwithstanding this reasoning, many uber-wealthy people consistently say that at some point money itself ceases to be a motivating factor. Once their net worth becomes a meaninglessly large number ir's more about the thrill of seeing large-scale plans come true, overcoming huge obstacles, changing the world, feeling superhuman, etc.
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Notwithstanding this reasoning, many uber-wealthy people consistently say that at some point money itself ceases to be a motivating factor. Once their net worth becomes a meaninglessly large number ir's more about the thrill of seeing large-scale plans come true, overcoming huge obstacles, changing the world, feeling superhuman, etc.
Billionaires and politicians say a lot of things. As long as they continue to hoard wealth like dragons while millions starve, I'm gonna think money continues to be a motivating factor.
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Billionaires and politicians say a lot of things. As long as they continue to hoard wealth like dragons while millions starve, I'm gonna think money continues to be a motivating factor.
I don't think we mean the same thing by "motivating" but whatever, yeah billionaires are bad and it would be better if we capped wealth.
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Watching interracial porn dressed up as Adolf Hitler.
why does that make you guilty
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Watching interracial porn dressed up as Adolf Hitler.
Aaah, the dicktator fetish.
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But did they enjoy it?
