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    In general that may be true, but not all furries are benevolent. Every community to have ever existed in history eventually gets some bad apples and gatekeepers when it gets to a certain size.

    https://www.avclub.com/the-insane-story-of-a-furry-convention-undone-by-its-de-1798264086

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    My guy, you've literally just described the human race. "Not all of [insert community here] is benevolent" rings true everywhere, not just furries.

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      Simply put: It's a fetish.

      It's pretty common to not understand why some people like the things they do in fetishes. Most people don't find feet attractive, but some people become just as aroused seeing feet as others do seeing breasts.

      (Some furries will insist up and down that it's not a fetish, and those people are lying. They'll claim it's about a ton of different things, but it's pretty easy to tell. Because the ones who deny it are the ones who like to push their fetish onto others.)

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      That's too simple, you could subtract everything adult from the furry fandom and quite a lot would remain. If you did the same to an actual fetish-based community you'd have little left, if anything.

      Furries like anthropomorphic animals in multiple ways. People tend to focus on (and scandalize) the sexual part when sometimes it's just cute, funny or invokes all sorts of other feelings. It's a full-spectrum interest.

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      • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

        Gross? What's gross about it?

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        Mostly the related art. The amount of yiff communities I had to block to keep their porn out of my feed was surprising. I don't begrudge them their lifestyle. You want to put on something and have sex with somebody, go for it. I'm not into even 1%. The amount of erotic art that exists is beyond astounding to me. Meanwhile, I struggle to find active communities about Halloween, Lego, and various games I play. Granted, I haven't looked lately for new ones, but the ones I subscribed to previously aren't very active.

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        • M [email protected]

          Simply put: It's a fetish.

          It's pretty common to not understand why some people like the things they do in fetishes. Most people don't find feet attractive, but some people become just as aroused seeing feet as others do seeing breasts.

          (Some furries will insist up and down that it's not a fetish, and those people are lying. They'll claim it's about a ton of different things, but it's pretty easy to tell. Because the ones who deny it are the ones who like to push their fetish onto others.)

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          Because it is not just a fetish. We claim it's about a ton of different things because it is about a ton of different things to so many different people.

          Some people identify as their fursonas and are comfortable in that skin; some people think they're reincarnations of certain animals; some people like to write stories about furry characters; some people think furries are cool; some people just have a favourite anthro character from games or TV shows; some people sexualize them; some people are in it for the community interactions and safe spaces; some people are in it for the lucrative furry art commissions.

          None of those are mutually exclusive. One can find Veezara from Skyrim cool and hot. One can do art and enjoy the communal support without having a fetish for it. Being a fetish is just one part of furry culture.

          To reduce an entire community to "it's just a fetish" is such a gross generalization. It's like saying "anime fans are perverts" just because a non-insignificant amount of anime feature sexualized depictions of girls.

          Look, I understand if your immediate reaction to "furries" is "it's just a fetish"; there is a lot of furry porn out there! However, there's a problem with that view: you're so focused on the "furries just have a fetish" part that you're ignoring the mountains of regular human porn floating all around you.

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          • hatchetharo@pawb.socialH [email protected]

            My guy, you've literally just described the human race. "Not all of [insert community here] is benevolent" rings true everywhere, not just furries.

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            That's why is weird to start with the assumption that anyone is cool. Or really start with any assumption at all.

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              That's why is weird to start with the assumption that anyone is cool. Or really start with any assumption at all.

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              There's no assumption in saying "furries are cool", much in the same way one can say "anime is cool" and "robots are cool". It is a statement of opinion, not fact.

              If you don't find it cool, just say you're not into it, but don't try to gatekeep someone's enjoyment of something by somehow refuting their opinion that something they enjoy "is cool".

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              • sxan@midwest.socialS [email protected]

                My hard line is at the sexualizing animals, no matter how disguised, but whatever. It's fantasy. There are far worse role playing scenarios.

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                If you flip it around to giving animal features to people, is that fine?

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                  ..do you really think the other commenter meant it in that way, though? And is that how fetish is used in common parlance?

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                  Well, I hope so, because I do

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                  • hatchetharo@pawb.socialH [email protected]

                    There's no assumption in saying "furries are cool", much in the same way one can say "anime is cool" and "robots are cool". It is a statement of opinion, not fact.

                    If you don't find it cool, just say you're not into it, but don't try to gatekeep someone's enjoyment of something by somehow refuting their opinion that something they enjoy "is cool".

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                    I'm not trying to gatekeep anything. I don't care what you think is cool. Furries aren't some form of media or object, they're people. I don't assume people are cool based on their hobbies.

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                      If you flip it around to giving animal features to people, is that fine?

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                      It's fine either way, add long as they can give consent. I'm just not attracted to animals, whether it's a pig head on a human body, or an intelligent pig.

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                      • princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zoneP [email protected]

                        Gross? What's gross about it?

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                        Y’all smell under that suit.

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                          Mostly the related art. The amount of yiff communities I had to block to keep their porn out of my feed was surprising. I don't begrudge them their lifestyle. You want to put on something and have sex with somebody, go for it. I'm not into even 1%. The amount of erotic art that exists is beyond astounding to me. Meanwhile, I struggle to find active communities about Halloween, Lego, and various games I play. Granted, I haven't looked lately for new ones, but the ones I subscribed to previously aren't very active.

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                          Fur suits and furry porn are two different things.

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                            I am sorry if this comes off as offensive to anyone, I'm not trying to be.

                            I don't get furries.

                            I also don't have to completely understand their ins and outs and complexities to know they're people who are worthy of respect for being other living people. (or non-people if they identify as non-people? Again I don't understand them as much as I probably should).

                            Regardless, shout out to all the furries out there who struggle with things I can't even imagine.

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                            I also don't have to completely understand their ins and outs and complexities to know they're people who are worthy of respect for being other living people.

                            đź’ś Big true.

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                              i'm not a furry

                              i don't f/w spaces if i don't see furries around & welcomed

                              for one i want to know its a place people don't have to pass to feel safe

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                              • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                                Fur suits and furry porn are two different things.

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                                Sure, but nearly all of the furry art I've seen has been porn. I get that there are lifestyles and activities that are not porn-related. Either way if you're into it, you do your thing. I'm probably not going to be commenting on their creativity because I find the whole thing a little creepy, but I also wouldn't limit someone's ability to live that way.

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                                  Sure, but nearly all of the furry art I've seen has been porn. I get that there are lifestyles and activities that are not porn-related. Either way if you're into it, you do your thing. I'm probably not going to be commenting on their creativity because I find the whole thing a little creepy, but I also wouldn't limit someone's ability to live that way.

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                                  You said you find fur suits gross though, those aren't inherently sexual.

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                                    I'm not trying to gatekeep anything. I don't care what you think is cool. Furries aren't some form of media or object, they're people. I don't assume people are cool based on their hobbies.

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                                    Furries aren’t done form of media or object, they’re people.

                                    "Furries" can refer either to people who are part of the furry fandom, or to the furry characters themselves.

                                    It's kinda weird that that's the case, since usually, in furry spaces, the characters are referred to as "anthros" which is short for "anthropomorphic animals".

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                                      I am sorry if this comes off as offensive to anyone, I'm not trying to be.

                                      I don't get furries.

                                      I also don't have to completely understand their ins and outs and complexities to know they're people who are worthy of respect for being other living people. (or non-people if they identify as non-people? Again I don't understand them as much as I probably should).

                                      Regardless, shout out to all the furries out there who struggle with things I can't even imagine.

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                                      I’m cool with roleplaying as an animal person, wearing a costume, the fetish aspect, whatever. Live your life.

                                      I just don’t understand why they’ve all standardized to using the same terrible art style. It doesn’t look like a human, an animal, or even a sonic character (which I assume is the root), but a fourth thing. You can tell a furry by how they draw a normal human because of how deep set the habits are. Is there any other group as exclusively committed to an art style?

                                      If I spent that kind of money on a wolf costume I’d at least want it to vaguely look like a wolf.

                                      Edit: If you think these don’t heavily share a style (as compared to anthropomorphic characters from non-furry animated series, for example) then I don’t know what to tell you.

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                                      • jackbydev@programming.devJ [email protected]

                                        You said you find fur suits gross though, those aren't inherently sexual.

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                                        That was someone else. I'm not the original commenter on this comment chain.

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                                          Furries aren’t done form of media or object, they’re people.

                                          "Furries" can refer either to people who are part of the furry fandom, or to the furry characters themselves.

                                          It's kinda weird that that's the case, since usually, in furry spaces, the characters are referred to as "anthros" which is short for "anthropomorphic animals".

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                                          Well TIL. Doesn't really change the intent of what I said, but thanks for the knew knowledge.

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