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    A OS for everyone must just work. Such a bug is not acceptable. And just installingsteam is a basic use case that should work on any distro used for home PCs.

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    On the one hand, I'm going to call bullshit. As if Windows has never thrown an error in its 40 year history.

    On the other, the whole point of doing an analysis like this is to identify the links in the accident chain. Which are:

    • A weird bug related to APT's dependency metadata happeend in the steam .deb package. This bug specifically effected Pop!_OS because their Cosmic desktop, still pretty much a fork of Gnome, was so new that dependency info got written wrong. Most of the Linux ecosystem was not effected, only Pop!_OS users using the Cosmic desktop.
    • This bug was discovered, and fixed via issuing an updated package with the dependency data corrected. BUT, the version of the apt cache that was included in the ISO that Linus downloaded just happened to still point to the bugged version.
    • At no point during the install or user onboarding process does Pop!_OS walk the user through the process of a software update. It also does not seem to perform an apt update on launching or searching the Pop!_Shop. I believe it is/was configured to do that on a timed basis, and was trusting that...perhaps a little too much.
    • Linus tries to install Steam while on his period and he doesn't handle an error message particularly well. He turns to using the terminal without really knowing what he was doing and ignores all warnings. On camera.

    The design of the Pop!_Shop and over-trusting scheduled updates allowed the bugged package to slip through the cracks. Note this happened minutes after the install of the OS before any scheduled update had happened. Because no one installs software immediately after first boot, right? To their credit, the automated system saw the incompatibility and just errored out. So here comes Linus with the steel chair.

    This is why I'm kind of cold on recommending trendy new distros to new users. Let's very very slightly fork a DE for very petty reasons just enough to cause dependency problems, or let's re-implement a package manager front end because we want a grid not columns so we'll redo the whole thing and it'll be fine.

    At the time, Pop!_OS was the big "it solves this one little problem, so point all newbies at it" distro because they shipped a separate ISO for Nvidia equipped platforms. Problem is, other than that it's just janked up Ubuntu Gnome.

    No no! Use Bazzite. No no use Peppermint. No no, use Elementary. No no, use Endeavour. No no, use Nobara. This quarter the one all the newbies are bing told to use CachyOS. Get ready to never hear about CachyOS after 15 months from now.

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    • halvar@lemy.lolH [email protected]

      I used to watch them, for me the content has gotten a bit boring, but they still occasionally upload some interesting stuff. Also I used to listen to their podcast every week and it's still one of my favorites, I just don't get to listen to podcasts as much.

      As for their controversies I think they've handled them well, but we don't have to agree on that.

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      I miss the beard. I feel like I watch less since he shaved, but that just might be a coincidence as my ADHD makes me binge different content in spurts.

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        Delivering wholesome content, yet still somehow managing to fuck it up in some greedy way.

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        • T [email protected]

          His crew has claimed many abuses (supposedly he has been absolved, I don't have knowledge of or an opinion on whether that's justified).

          He stole a prototype of a product then sold it for profit ("What Happened Between Linus Tech Tips And Billet Labs?" on this page).

          Also on that page are other allegations of which I was unaware, most of which (at a glance) seem to be about improperly testing and/or representing products. I particularly like the one about claiming a mouse was poor quality after he failed to remove a cover from the sensor.

          edit: I've been informed that my understanding of the situation with the prototype may have been incorrect. Reading the thread below may clarify matters.

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          He was “absolved” by a company that he hired to investigate.

          The situations mostly come down to he said/she said, so nothing for the company to find…

          The result of the investigation was that there wasn’t any evidence, not disproving or proving the allegations

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          • G [email protected]

            I miss the beard. I feel like I watch less since he shaved, but that just might be a coincidence as my ADHD makes me binge different content in spurts.

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            He just finished growing it back lol

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            • halvar@lemy.lolH [email protected]

              He just finished growing it back lol

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              Guess my break is over then, how convenient!

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                Nah, I'm at issue with that because me.

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                • stez827@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                  Why do you hate him?

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                  He chose his channel's name to be deliberately confusing.

                  edit: reading the other comments in this thread, he sucks.

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                    He chose his channel's name to be deliberately confusing.

                    edit: reading the other comments in this thread, he sucks.

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                    How is it confusing

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                    • stez827@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                      How is it confusing

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                      Linus Torvalds is super well known for creating Linux. Linux is heavily used in "tech". Linus is not a common name globally.

                      Personally, I had expected that "Linux Tech Tips" was Linux Torvalds giving Linux tech tips. Clearly, I have no bothered to read any of them.

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                        Linus Torvalds is super well known for creating Linux. Linux is heavily used in "tech". Linus is not a common name globally.

                        Personally, I had expected that "Linux Tech Tips" was Linux Torvalds giving Linux tech tips. Clearly, I have no bothered to read any of them.

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                        Ok well that's kind of your own fault I mean while Linus Torvalds is well known in the Linux and super techy (super super techy) community he is not well known to most people I know about Linus tech tips before Torvalds. That might be because I'm 19 right now and had access to YouTube at a younger age but I personally never found it confusing as it's just the guy's name and he does tech videos.

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