Which job(s) would you refuse to accept regardless of how good the pay is?
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"By the way, if anyone here is in advertising or marketing...kill yourself" --Bill Hicks
I worked in marketing. Though..
- I create materials/tools to help patients with chronic diseases stay adherent to medication while building a better lifestyle
- I made materials to convince health insurance companies to cover medications
So, it's not all bad. I moved on to hospital records analysis to identify things that would kill people, and now work in protocols and systems that help preserve the privacy of user data (one of them even uses ActivityPub).
I've been pretty fortunate in the jobs I've been able to find.
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My coworker left our job because a place offered him a pay raise that was like half his current salary.
He came back - the job was so terrible he couldn't stay there. Not just the actual work, but the people.
I try to avoid working anyplace evil, so banks, oil companies, etc. and there are environments I can't be productive in - government, healthcare, anyplace very structured and bureaucratic. I guess if the pay and position are secured, and I can handle my work however I want without losing them, then I would not do anything that would kill me or others either directly or through incompetence (underwater welder, race car driver, assassin, surgeon), would probably cave on banks and other evil orgs, since I might be able to try to change them from the inside.
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My coworker left our job because a place offered him a pay raise that was like half his current salary.
He came back - the job was so terrible he couldn't stay there. Not just the actual work, but the people.
I try to avoid working anyplace evil, so banks, oil companies, etc. and there are environments I can't be productive in - government, healthcare, anyplace very structured and bureaucratic. I guess if the pay and position are secured, and I can handle my work however I want without losing them, then I would not do anything that would kill me or others either directly or through incompetence (underwater welder, race car driver, assassin, surgeon), would probably cave on banks and other evil orgs, since I might be able to try to change them from the inside.
There are pipeline and mining jobs near me that would leverage my degree and skills but I don’t even entertain applying, I would hate it there doing stuff I feel is wrong.
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Anything that requires me to exert force with my hands repetitively for long periods, like teasing or twisting. I've done it while fixing things around the house, and I'm damn sure I'd get carpal tunnel very quickly. But typing and moving the mouse all day, every day is fine & dandy!
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ICE agent.
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I worked in marketing. Though..
- I create materials/tools to help patients with chronic diseases stay adherent to medication while building a better lifestyle
- I made materials to convince health insurance companies to cover medications
So, it's not all bad. I moved on to hospital records analysis to identify things that would kill people, and now work in protocols and systems that help preserve the privacy of user data (one of them even uses ActivityPub).
I've been pretty fortunate in the jobs I've been able to find.
"Look, I've worked with other vulture companies to convince them to get better PR by not being absolute soul-rotting evil all the time!" is not the flex you think it is, R.E. insurance compainies.
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ICE agent.
Same. Although mainly because I don't have the cool maintain my cover while undermining the organization from within.
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Commercial fisherman
Deep-sea diver
wrote last edited by [email protected]That bottom one. It's the kind of job where you can do everything perfectly and still fucking die horribly. Pays like 200k a year though.
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Anything public facing or anything that has me carrying around a gun. Both are absolute no-gos in my mind.
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Prison guard.
You can’t leave work during your shift, you’re in prison.Prostitution.
My apologies if this subject is taboo. However, it is the oldest profession in the world and stood the test of time. I have a vivid imagination and I’m having trouble imagining what would happen if I’m just not attracted or aroused.I am against the prison industrial complex but consensual relations between adults are just fine. I’m not sure I could do it but I’d try.
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My coworker left our job because a place offered him a pay raise that was like half his current salary.
He came back - the job was so terrible he couldn't stay there. Not just the actual work, but the people.
I try to avoid working anyplace evil, so banks, oil companies, etc. and there are environments I can't be productive in - government, healthcare, anyplace very structured and bureaucratic. I guess if the pay and position are secured, and I can handle my work however I want without losing them, then I would not do anything that would kill me or others either directly or through incompetence (underwater welder, race car driver, assassin, surgeon), would probably cave on banks and other evil orgs, since I might be able to try to change them from the inside.
I try to avoid working anyplace evil, so banks, oil companies, etc. and there are environments I can’t be productive in - government, healthcare, anyplace very structured and bureaucratic.
That's who invented the Internet.
I work for a Contractor who contracts to Government, including Healthcare. The job is meh, but the people are absolutely awesome. The structure is actually a huge benefit, and it makes all the dotcoms' seat-of-the-pants I.T stand out so much more. There's no power-play to prevent updating software - for example - just because "Doug knows the CEO and he doesn't want to" because Dougie's written objection wouldn't pass scrutiny -- and, at most, Doug would get an extension to follow a set plan with milestones to get to that update anyway. But there are many examples where common dotcom slackery dies under review.
There are obvious and well-repeated problems with the overly-structured setup, but they're different from the ones that bother me, and erring on the side of safety and most-benefit is what annoys people ("why can't we have containers and supply-chain exploits like everyone elssssse") the most.
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Anything requiring me to travel to the US
travel to the US
They round up 12 people a month from New Zealand. NEW ZEALAND! Anyone hating on the nicest country on the planet really has mental issues they need to get solved.
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Debt collector
My wife works in Accounts Receivable, and now manages a team who talks nicely to people about paying that debt over others, so their essential products arrive on time. She's an absolute sweetie and I don't know how she does it, but she's excelled for a decade at it now.
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any military or military complex job. i refuse to assist or partake in the murdering of humans.
assist or partake in the murdering
Militaries outside of America do a LOT of non-murderous jobs. Sandbag the planet? Search and Recovery? Coordinating aid on the ground? When you're a force that happens to be armed, it's a different job. But they still need boots and belts and brass and buttons and berets and boomsticks.
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Anything where you're around the public all day. Rather wash dishes than be a waitress.
I'd go back to waitering if I needed to -- and if my feet weren't so trashed from either combat boots or dress shoes already!
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I try to avoid working anyplace evil, so banks, oil companies, etc. and there are environments I can’t be productive in - government, healthcare, anyplace very structured and bureaucratic.
That's who invented the Internet.
I work for a Contractor who contracts to Government, including Healthcare. The job is meh, but the people are absolutely awesome. The structure is actually a huge benefit, and it makes all the dotcoms' seat-of-the-pants I.T stand out so much more. There's no power-play to prevent updating software - for example - just because "Doug knows the CEO and he doesn't want to" because Dougie's written objection wouldn't pass scrutiny -- and, at most, Doug would get an extension to follow a set plan with milestones to get to that update anyway. But there are many examples where common dotcom slackery dies under review.
There are obvious and well-repeated problems with the overly-structured setup, but they're different from the ones that bother me, and erring on the side of safety and most-benefit is what annoys people ("why can't we have containers and supply-chain exploits like everyone elssssse") the most.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I tried to work in a structured and bureaucratic environment once and was so useless because I want to change everything all the time, and wasn't used to "have your manager talk to her manager", or people trying to blame their errors on others, or trying to get their job. When I saw the lady who did payroll checking everyone off on a long sheet of green and white paper even though they were paying for Kronos and just not using it right, but she protected her job and didn't want it to change, and people there would make others look bad instead of helping them, in an effort to look better themselves in comparison, I cannot function in that world.
I've only worked at startups, and the good part of that is that everyone is trying to do things better, easier, I don't get mad if someone sees a better way I could do something, and they don't have to have their manager tell my manager. And everyone helps everyone, nobody is protecting their job because there is always too much, helping others is how you move up here.
(And yes I know this is a personal difference, not saying it's a better work environment for everyone, or even better for results. Accounting is its own type of work, too - I try to solve problems and get the software to do what a machine does better than a person. The kind of accounting where you are doing what a machine can, is dreadfully boring. I have often thought help desk at my work is the best job. They troubleshoot, and set up equipment, it's got a good balance of work. )
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This unfortunately is the problem with the police. People who see the police as problematic are unwilling to join so the majority of people who join are the ones who just want to have power over others.
There are many variations on the quote but a cop who doesn’t report a bad cop is themselves a bad cop, so you could be the actual good cop who reports their coworkers until you get fired from the corrupt org but if enough people did that we might actually see some change.
Cops also have a surprising amount of freedom to choose to enforce laws so you could also just not enforce laws you consider corrupt.
I am saying this as a person who wouldn’t want to associate with a cop but would love to have some cops who aren’t bastards but unfortunately #ACAB
wrote last edited by [email protected]but unfortunately #ACAB
If American Cops Are Bastards, you may be out of luck. My wife's sister is a cop (not American) when she's not Ambulance (or volunteer fire! She's an over-achiever). I've known her longer than I've known my wife, and she's stayed a really great person despite the horror (and poop) she's seen.
But yeah, we need to pay American cops more so they can get better applicants and can then screen out and weed out the bastards.
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That should be evidence to them that they are the bad guys. No one tells a job offer to “fuck off” if the company isn’t utterly shit. Even if Meta or Twitter offered me a job I’d probably just use a curt “no” and move on. But, Project Veritas, Heritage Foundation, Palantir? They’d get a “fuck off” for sure.
Yeah. I'll interview with anyone who wants it, but for Palantir and Heritage Foundation and others who are actively working to make peoples' lives worse? They'd get a very Canadian "no, sorry*, I would prefer not".
- Canada has like 5 meanings for 'sorry', including "I'm saddened you can't be better than you are."
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but unfortunately #ACAB
If American Cops Are Bastards, you may be out of luck. My wife's sister is a cop (not American) when she's not Ambulance (or volunteer fire! She's an over-achiever). I've known her longer than I've known my wife, and she's stayed a really great person despite the horror (and poop) she's seen.
But yeah, we need to pay American cops more so they can get better applicants and can then screen out and weed out the bastards.
It varies on localities but cops can make a shit ton especially in cities.
Seattle will hire you with only a high school diploma starting at over $100k/yr with a $7500 hiring bonus and are still understaffed and keep lowering the requirements to become a cop
They also have eligibility for tons of overtime and can make over 200-300k/yr after just a few years on the force
Yet still they have an abysmal police department
Which is why acab stands for all cops are bastards -
ICE agent.
Unless you are very good at causing internal disruptions, sabotage and slow downs.
