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  • abbotsbury@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

    The offense is not at the message, it's that they were targeted to have it delivered.

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    This is a genocide being committed right now and you want me to debate you about a message a group of people who eat traditionally Jewish food and may be Israeli, and giving these folks a message saying free Palestine is somehow offensive because they were targeted as potential Israeli citizens who can vote the terrorist Netanyahu out of office?

    What are you talking about?

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      This is a genocide being committed right now and you want me to debate you about a message a group of people who eat traditionally Jewish food and may be Israeli, and giving these folks a message saying free Palestine is somehow offensive because they were targeted as potential Israeli citizens who can vote the terrorist Netanyahu out of office?

      What are you talking about?

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      and you want me to debate you about a message a group of people who eat traditionally Jewish food and may be Israeli

      buddy you're doing that anyway. Conflating Israelis with Jews is wrong, yes. Targeting Jews to try and send a message to Israeli is wrong, yes. I know you feel like anything you like is justified since you believe in The Right Thing, but doing bad things for a good reason is still bad.

      and giving these folks a message saying free Palestine is somehow because they were targeted as potential Israeli citizens who can vote the terrorist Netanyahu out of office?

      oh wow you're incoherent with indignation, what a surprise. Why are you wasting time? There's a genocide RIGHT NOW

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        Well there's certainly no other racial or minority group that could understand that

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        Maybe it's my own confirmation bias but I see more dismissal of Jewish concerns than others even in progressive spaces 🤷

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          Tony is glorifying the label "antisemite." Nobody is winning here.

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            Tony is glorifying the label "antisemite." Nobody is winning here.

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            You know who else is "glorifying" antisemite? Israel.

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              You know who else is "glorifying" antisemite? Israel.

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              Deflection. You can't use their wrongs to justify yours.

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              • D [email protected]

                This is a genocide being committed right now and you want me to debate you about a message a group of people who eat traditionally Jewish food and may be Israeli, and giving these folks a message saying free Palestine is somehow offensive because they were targeted as potential Israeli citizens who can vote the terrorist Netanyahu out of office?

                What are you talking about?

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                Idk sounds pretty racist to give a guy ordering kungpao chicken a "Free Uyghurs" note.

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                • abbotsbury@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                  and you want me to debate you about a message a group of people who eat traditionally Jewish food and may be Israeli

                  buddy you're doing that anyway. Conflating Israelis with Jews is wrong, yes. Targeting Jews to try and send a message to Israeli is wrong, yes. I know you feel like anything you like is justified since you believe in The Right Thing, but doing bad things for a good reason is still bad.

                  and giving these folks a message saying free Palestine is somehow because they were targeted as potential Israeli citizens who can vote the terrorist Netanyahu out of office?

                  oh wow you're incoherent with indignation, what a surprise. Why are you wasting time? There's a genocide RIGHT NOW

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                  I guess I don’t care if they are offended?

                  Or if you are offended?

                  Because there is a genocide happening, being committed by the Israeli government.

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                    Idk sounds pretty racist to give a guy ordering kungpao chicken a "Free Uyghurs" note.

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                    I guess I disagree.

                    I wouldn’t give people notes like this I don’t think. But I don’t think it is racist. Supporting Israel is more racist than this.

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                      Maybe it's my own confirmation bias but I see more dismissal of Jewish concerns than others even in progressive spaces 🤷

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                      It might help if you don't imply Jewish people are the only targets of genocide, but I do think this very topic proves the overall point

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                        The details are lacking, if this is on everyones meals, then that's ok in my books, if it only targets Jewish people then there is a problems

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                        What if this was directed at someone wearing an Israeli flag. Does that mean it was not targeting a Jewish person and instead voicing political opposition to a political entity?

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                          What if this was directed at someone wearing an Israeli flag. Does that mean it was not targeting a Jewish person and instead voicing political opposition to a political entity?

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                          If the person was wearing the flag, and it was a one off, then I'd say, personally that it would be fine, but it seems this was just written on the kosher meals

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                            Boo hoo, somebody has a wake up call. Because this isnt antisemitic this is targeted. It is a simple fact that the vast majority of Jewish people support the Occupation, a smaller (but still majority) percentage of people either implicitly or explicitly supports the genocide.

                            I know this because im acturally Jewish, ive acturally seen the occupation with my own eyes, ive spoken to more Zionists than I could possibly count, and I know that there are few fellow Jews like me.

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                              I guess I disagree.

                              I wouldn’t give people notes like this I don’t think. But I don’t think it is racist. Supporting Israel is more racist than this.

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                              Supporting Israel is more racist than this.

                              Okay.

                              Guess I should start vocally denouncing the CCP and their Uyghur genocide before I get myself a Malatang.

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                                because you have to ask for a kosher meal specifically.

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                                Are only jewish people allowed to ask for kosher meals?

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                                  Supporting Israel is more racist than this.

                                  Okay.

                                  Guess I should start vocally denouncing the CCP and their Uyghur genocide before I get myself a Malatang.

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                                  Or just stop trying to find excuses to support the terrorist genocidal Israelis. It’s not hard.

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                                    One of Israel's goals is to equate Judaism with the state of Israel. Whilst I respect the intention of whoever wrote that note, they also are unwittingly playing into Israel's agenda.

                                    There are many anti-zionist Jews, many of whom are some of the loudest voices pushing back against Israel. Let's be mindful of who our enemy actually is, because it is not the Jewish people

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                                    You made an excellent point, although it is missing a critical fact. Not that passengers are jewish, but that they are (probably) from Israel.

                                    Forget about the media always highligting semitism. Criticism is directed to citizens who pay taxes fueling genocide. Nothing to do with semitism.

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                                      I guess I don’t care if they are offended?

                                      Or if you are offended?

                                      Because there is a genocide happening, being committed by the Israeli government.

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                                      You're so brave

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                                        I thought this WASNT about anti semitism

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                                        • stinky@redlemmy.comS [email protected]

                                          Are only jewish people allowed to ask for kosher meals?

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                                          That feels like the type of nuance that a person who would assume that Jewish-person = support-for-Israel's-genocide would not have the forethought of.

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