Microsoft and Asus announce two Xbox Ally handhelds with new Xbox full-screen experience
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Only it doesn't run Xbox games.
To Microsoft, everything is an Xbox.
At least that's their marketing atm.
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:::wrote on last edited by [email protected]Nintendo wiped the floor in the mobile gaming market for decades despite their competitors having beefier specs. The DS lasted for years before we ever got the Switch. Let the Steam Deck mature.
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I still think the real XBox handheld is another 2-5 years out. This is Microsoft dipping their toes in the water and the ROC is a great system to start that partnership
They seem to have dropped all plans to plans to make their own recently.
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To Microsoft, everything is an Xbox.
At least that's their marketing atm.
I'd say it'll backfire when people can't play those odd Xbox games that for some reason never came to PC, but there's so few people using Xboxes anyway, I doubt it's going to matter. They've well and truly dropped the ball since the Xbox 360, and don't really show any signs of being interested in picking it up again.
Everything just points to them making enough money from everything else to not really care. This is as token an effort as it's possible to make in the handheld space.
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Nintendo wiped the floor in the mobile gaming market for decades despite their competitors having beefier specs. The DS lasted for years before we ever got the Switch. Let the Steam Deck mature.
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:::Even if you're correct, it's still too early, anyway. That's my point.
The DS had a seven-year lifespan and the original Switch had eight. Even living room console have an average near decade long lifespan. So, of course Valve isn’t going to throw their money into a second generation.
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Even if you're correct, it's still too early, anyway. That's my point.
The DS had a seven-year lifespan and the original Switch had eight. Even living room console have an average near decade long lifespan. So, of course Valve isn’t going to throw their money into a second generation.
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I would be interested if it also supported quick resume from sleep like the Deck does. Imo that's the killer SteamOS feature that's keeping Windows alternatives from being even a consideration.
If they implemented Direct Resume I might cave and reinstall Windows on my Ally.
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If they implemented Direct Resume I might cave and reinstall Windows on my Ally.
But what for? Nothing makes it better, even if you would get this equivalent feature.
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:::But like the Xbox Series S it is starting to show some age on more demanding titles.
Sounds like this is more of the fault of the AAA publishers than the console makers.
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But like the Xbox Series S it is starting to show some age on more demanding titles.
Sounds like this is more of the fault of the AAA publishers than the console makers.
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:::It fucking does matter. I'm tired of this stupid rat race.
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It fucking does matter. I'm tired of this stupid rat race.
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Sounds like yet another great handheld device [to install SteamOS on]!
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:::The ROG Ally X's MSRP is 899,-€ and that's what it currently costs here in Germany at least. It was as low as 799,-€ though recently, but now it's back up. Considering this "Xbox Ally X" is the successor to it, I don't think it's unrealistic.
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The ROG Ally X's MSRP is 899,-€ and that's what it currently costs here in Germany at least. It was as low as 799,-€ though recently, but now it's back up. Considering this "Xbox Ally X" is the successor to it, I don't think it's unrealistic.
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Nintendo wiped the floor in the mobile gaming market for decades despite their competitors having beefier specs. The DS lasted for years before we ever got the Switch. Let the Steam Deck mature.
The difference is that nobody's releasing games specifically made for the Deck. Some are including optimizations to make their games run decently well on it, but it's not a AAA machine. I bought one knowing this full well and am satisfied playing less demanding games on it, but it's not going to be playing new demanding games, unlike with dedicated consoles.
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I suspect handhelds are going to be the future for awhile now. It's not just out of a growing demand or simply because portable graphics processing and battery power have improved (although those factors do help) but it's another chance to:
- Push locked hardware
- Funnel to controlled storefronts
- Bring down and moderate the increasingly unsustainable AAA development costs
Those first two aren't particularly surprising, they're the key elements that Nintendo has honed in on while Sony and particularly Microsoft continue to struggle. Microsoft feels like they've just left XBox to languish while they focus on Game Pass as a means to ensnare you into their economy which is why they're first down this path, but I think Sony will follow shortly. In an ideal world, I'd love to see Sony get back to hardware manufacturing with a Vita like device you could load Linux/SteamOS onto. Vita was a great little product, done so dirty. EDIT: I know the Portal exists, but that's mostly just a dumb receiver as far as I understand it. Still, they're already not too far off ... come on guys, just a little further.
But moreover it's that last point, really. It's hard to continue to push out these extraordinarily big budget, bordering on AAAA (lol) territory games that continue to flop. I know the Switch 2 is already doing stuff like Cyberpunk 2077, but that stuff can still be hell on battery life as well as requiring lower resolution and lowered visuals in portable mode.
I feel like Nintendo is making a big mistake pushing that 4K60 envelope with the Switch 2, although I see why they made that maneuver. The Switch was perpetually underpowered and they felt the need to close that gap, but they already struggle to push out big budget tentpole franchises as is illustrated by Mario Kart World being the only big release title. Also, I just want to generally point this out, Nintendo suffers from needing to up the stakes. It's what lead to Mario Galaxy being such a grand adventure, then Odyssey going even bigger than that. Now we have Kart World because ... gotta get bigger than 8 Deluxe somehow I guess.
I don't know what any of this means or where it's going, I just wanted to try and call out some of these observations. Turbulent times ahead, I don't know that anyone really knows what the next 2-3 years will look like.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I know the Switch 2 is already doing stuff like Cyberpunk 2077
It's 4 1/2 years old and already runs on other handhelds. Not really an impressive feat.
they already struggle to push out big budget tentpole franchises as is illustrated by Mario Kart World being the only big release title.
Yeah, I read that they only released something like 22 original titles in the 8 years the Switch has been around. That's not counting any ports, remasters, and the like, which make up a hefty chunk of their Switch releases. They got away with it before because so few people had a Wii U, but they need to up their game to make the Switch 2 appealing to the masses, especially with the high price tag. It's not a promising start, with announced titles being Donkey Kong Bananza (which looks great) and a whole bunch of Switch 1 upsells, including Metroid Prime 4, which will be released for both consoles. Feels like they're trying to cannibalize their Switch 1 releases the way they did their Wii U ones, but 150 million Switches were sold. People already played these games if they were interested in them.
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Steam Deck appreciator myself and this does seem like a good starting point for Xbox. I’m interested to see how it progresses over the years.
Not saying I'd get one, but I am a Xbox gamer. It's where the majority of my purchases are. I hardly play PC because I just don't like sitting at a desk, when I'm in a desk chair most of the day. I maybe have 3-4 games on steam, but my PC is getting old just found out even though my graphics card can do ray tracing, my processor is only 2.9ghx and recommended min is 3.2 and can't run the new doom game.
So if you were to get one would you stay with the steam deck or wait for the Asus?
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But what for? Nothing makes it better, even if you would get this equivalent feature.
Why not?
