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Tubeless tire valves are getting weird. Here are the pros and cons to each design.

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      Do these all need different adapters for air? Or are the differences somewhere else?

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        I know I'm on the wrong side of the tracks here because ever since I was a kid I always drilled out my rims to accept normal tubes with Schrader valves.

        The notion that there are not just two but now multiple competing so-called standards for a problem that's been solved for literally over a century is baffling. There are no "pros," only cons; all of this is just a blatant attempt at vendor lock in. The main con is the obvious one, in that having to carry an adapter around to fill your tires is stupid, and you can find a Schrader compatible air pump anywhere. There's one strapped to the downtube on my bicycle right now.

        Any of these alleged trivial differences in performance are irrelevant because no one is putting air in or taking air out of their tires often enough for it to matter, and even if you are, is the minute difference in advertised flow rate worth spending ~$50 for a valve stem? No one in history has ever had trouble squeezing sealant through a Schrader valve. No one who doesn't have a dozen sponsor logos on their back will care about or even notice the weight difference between any of these stems out to any number of decimal places.

        This is all deeply silly. The latest shiny valve stems won't make you a better cyclist; just ride your damn bike.

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          Had to google tubeless tires to even understand the headline. Tubeless tire whats? I thought a tubless tire was some kind of solid or foam rubber that needed no inflation, but apparentlly it still does, it just doesn't have a separate innertube. Interesting.

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            Had to google tubeless tires to even understand the headline. Tubeless tire whats? I thought a tubless tire was some kind of solid or foam rubber that needed no inflation, but apparentlly it still does, it just doesn't have a separate innertube. Interesting.

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            Tubeless are nice. Tubeless tire fluid is basically just like blood. When the tire is punctured (assuming it's not a catastrophic puncture) it will automatically reseal and coagulate around the hole. It's typically used more for off-road/downhill mountain biking. Some city bikes also use it, but dealing with a flat is much easier in the city.

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              Had to google tubeless tires to even understand the headline. Tubeless tire whats? I thought a tubless tire was some kind of solid or foam rubber that needed no inflation, but apparentlly it still does, it just doesn't have a separate innertube. Interesting.

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              Tubeless tires are popular because you can run them at lower pressures without issues like pinch flats, so they're grippier. They also have lower rolling resistance so they ride faster.

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                I know I'm on the wrong side of the tracks here because ever since I was a kid I always drilled out my rims to accept normal tubes with Schrader valves.

                The notion that there are not just two but now multiple competing so-called standards for a problem that's been solved for literally over a century is baffling. There are no "pros," only cons; all of this is just a blatant attempt at vendor lock in. The main con is the obvious one, in that having to carry an adapter around to fill your tires is stupid, and you can find a Schrader compatible air pump anywhere. There's one strapped to the downtube on my bicycle right now.

                Any of these alleged trivial differences in performance are irrelevant because no one is putting air in or taking air out of their tires often enough for it to matter, and even if you are, is the minute difference in advertised flow rate worth spending ~$50 for a valve stem? No one in history has ever had trouble squeezing sealant through a Schrader valve. No one who doesn't have a dozen sponsor logos on their back will care about or even notice the weight difference between any of these stems out to any number of decimal places.

                This is all deeply silly. The latest shiny valve stems won't make you a better cyclist; just ride your damn bike.

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                Just have to be careful because drilling the rim out can weaken it. From what I understand the presta valves are used on stuff like MTB because it's smaller and they can make the rim stronger because the hole is smaller.

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                  Do these all need different adapters for air? Or are the differences somewhere else?

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                  A lot of pumps have a schrader and presta valve built into the nozzle, but some only have one. These all look like presta style valves.

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