Useless twisting of our new technology
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It's so strange for me, having been born in 1988, to hear someone not know who this guy is, and this song.
I fully understand that it's been just about 30 years since this came out, and there are multiple generations of kids that will never have heard it that are fully grown adults now.
Its just that this song was not only massive, one that everyone knew, but it lived on way past its release date, it was played on radio, tv, used in films and tv shows (silicon valley is a recent one of note). The same band also had a meme based on the film "napolean dynamite" with the song canned heat, which the main character did a dance to that made it into games such as world of warcraft and fortnite.
The band is a part of pop culture, and despite it all, there are still places in the world where people dont know instantly what this picture is from and who that is.
I get it. It just boggles my mind how vast the world is. Even 10 years ago there were people living in the north west of england asking who the beatles were. (Beatles are from liverpool in the north west of england and liverpool is littered with beatles murals, staturs and that kind of shit) its insane that anyone could not know who they are.
But hey ho. Just thinking out loud.
I'm between 1 and 2 years older than you and I just found the song. As far as I can tell I've never heard it or anything about that dude before.
Not sure where I would have heard it... But I am pretty good at guess that tune from about 1970 to 2010 when I switched to streaming my own playlists.
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True, showing my age
The other day I heard a Joe Walsh song playing from a coworker's phone on break, and I was ready to excitedly nerd out over classic rock with someone.
But my coworker went, "Who? It's a TikTok," and my enthusiasm deflated like a balloon.
I guess we're both showing our age. Sigh
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Ask a 20yo from the 70s to use Excel.
You went backwards, i went forwards, slight difference there.
People are losing basic cognitive skills.People are losing/not learning skills they don't need. That's it. They learn other skills instead, that they do need.
Everyone has basic photography and photo editing skills. Something most people really didn't have in the 70s. Most people know how to use a smartphone or a PC, again not something that the average person could do in the 70s.
Then again, in the 1890s most people knew how to handle a horse and hardly anyone knew how to control a car back then.
Even back in the late 1990s a large portion of the adults were afraid to touch a computer, because they thought it was some arcane magic, and now that's not an issue any more.
In the 80s and 90s, calligraphy was a quite common skill. Nowadays it's not necessary any more because if I want text to look nice, I print it.
There's no such thing as a "basic cognitive skill" that everyone needs to have in every circumstance throughout world history. Because stuff changes and skills that were super important 30 years ago just aren't nowadays.
Case in point, to return to your original argument: It was a common thing for pupils in the early 2000s to ask their teachers why they need to be able to do long division if they can just use a calculator instead, and the common answer was "You won't have a calculator in your pocket all the time". Well, we do now.
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It starts minimal, but it does progressively fill out.
Not that much actually! There's not even any bass for the first verse, as it punches in at the first chorus. By the end, the strings appear to come a bit forward in the mix, and there are 2, maybe 3 additional vocal tracks but no additional instruments that I can hear.
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I'd been texting for a couple of years when this came out, and had just logged my first full year working as a web developer. The next 5 years or so felt amazing, hardware and software was improving so quickly on all fronts.
Yeah, it was good times back then. Now the technlology has vastly exceeded our wildest dreams, yet it is under the control of greedy mega corporations, resulting in the most expensive shitty experience we have experienced so far.
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Looks like the The Expanse main character throwing a hat party inside the Rocinante.
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People have always complained about how new tech warps people’s minds.
Because it does.
Ask a 20yo to do simple math without using a calculator.
The more "helping" technology we rely on, the stupider we become.joke's on you. I've always been stupid
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Oh jfc teletext.. now that's a blast from the past. used to love reading it lol
i used to go on the jokes page. it was awesome. I miss teletext
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It's so strange for me, having been born in 1988, to hear someone not know who this guy is, and this song.
I fully understand that it's been just about 30 years since this came out, and there are multiple generations of kids that will never have heard it that are fully grown adults now.
Its just that this song was not only massive, one that everyone knew, but it lived on way past its release date, it was played on radio, tv, used in films and tv shows (silicon valley is a recent one of note). The same band also had a meme based on the film "napolean dynamite" with the song canned heat, which the main character did a dance to that made it into games such as world of warcraft and fortnite.
The band is a part of pop culture, and despite it all, there are still places in the world where people dont know instantly what this picture is from and who that is.
I get it. It just boggles my mind how vast the world is. Even 10 years ago there were people living in the north west of england asking who the beatles were. (Beatles are from liverpool in the north west of england and liverpool is littered with beatles murals, staturs and that kind of shit) its insane that anyone could not know who they are.
But hey ho. Just thinking out loud.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I was born in 1988 as well; I just don't recognize most musicians by their faces. (Is that a normal thing to do?) No need for the freak out.
Sorry for not always seeing every music video for every popular song. My bad, yo.
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I heard he wrote this song after visiting a fancy underground mall in Hong Kong/Japan and seeing how gnarly the tech was there at the time.
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This song would probably be number one if a popular artist did a cover of it. It hits A LOT harder now
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I was born in 1988 as well; I just don't recognize most musicians by their faces. (Is that a normal thing to do?) No need for the freak out.
Sorry for not always seeing every music video for every popular song. My bad, yo.
Hey man, i wanna be clear. That wasn't intended as a freak out. At all. I'm sorry it came off that way. It was a general musing about how vast the world is and that despite thinking everyone must know about a particular thing, there will always be people that don't.
I was more wonder and amazement at that fact. I wasn't having a go at you.
Sorry again my dude.
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Hey man, i wanna be clear. That wasn't intended as a freak out. At all. I'm sorry it came off that way. It was a general musing about how vast the world is and that despite thinking everyone must know about a particular thing, there will always be people that don't.
I was more wonder and amazement at that fact. I wasn't having a go at you.
Sorry again my dude.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I know who he is (thanks to context from other comments), I just don't recognize his face.
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JK was inspired to write the song after he spent all night exploring a web ring - all of which were GeoCities sites with an “under construction” animated gif.
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"Travel Without Moving". Appropriate way to describe VR, even if it's Dune quote.
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I mean, I guess yea? They was already putting out 2 albums of classic modern soul before traveling without moving and the world couldn’t be bothered…
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Yeah, it was good times back then. Now the technlology has vastly exceeded our wildest dreams, yet it is under the control of greedy mega corporations, resulting in the most expensive shitty experience we have experienced so far.
There's exceptions, though; that's why we're here
I totally read what you're saying. My work requires me to maintain a personal cell phone (Intune business profile) and, with any OEM implementation of a smartphone OS you're essentially paying to donate everything about you to a megacorp to sell it to another megacorp to siphon more of you're life away from you. The beauty of modern advancements, though, is that if you don't care to be within 20% of the "bleeding edge" of attention extraction and intention fabrication you can spend your time in communities like this and with tech like graphene and linux making few sacrifices, if any.
I don't know about you, but the lemmy atmosphere feels a lot like that of early forums to me. Not quite the same, but the community aspect is more present.
I think my stance is that technology doesn't suck, as is the case with most things; it's the unchecked and rampant abuse of a given thing.
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There's exceptions, though; that's why we're here
I totally read what you're saying. My work requires me to maintain a personal cell phone (Intune business profile) and, with any OEM implementation of a smartphone OS you're essentially paying to donate everything about you to a megacorp to sell it to another megacorp to siphon more of you're life away from you. The beauty of modern advancements, though, is that if you don't care to be within 20% of the "bleeding edge" of attention extraction and intention fabrication you can spend your time in communities like this and with tech like graphene and linux making few sacrifices, if any.
I don't know about you, but the lemmy atmosphere feels a lot like that of early forums to me. Not quite the same, but the community aspect is more present.
I think my stance is that technology doesn't suck, as is the case with most things; it's the unchecked and rampant abuse of a given thing.
Oh I agree 100%. The technology doesnt suck, It is fantastic beyond my wildest dreams as a young lad. What we are capable of doing now is amazing.
My complaints are with "subscriptions" and "accounts" to that technology. When I die, my accounts and subscriptions are non transferable. Meaning my $XX,000.00 dollar audible account with over 1000 audiobooks i bought and paid for dies with me. I now pay a yearly/monthly fee to use things like excell(which hasnt changed much) that i used to be able to buy and use indefinitely for 50 dollars.
The technology is amazing. The greedy corporate overlords are the problem.
