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Everyone knows what an email address is, right? (Quiz)

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  • nighed@feddit.ukN [email protected]

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    Going to have to try some of those.... Can you actually register emojis as a domain, or is that just the email validation that allows them?

    Edit: most TLDs don't. Smaller ones do sometimes.

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    Emoji domains can be registered using punycode, and you're right that it's up to the TLD whether they're allowed or not.

    For example: http://📙.la/🐶

    📙.la is encoded using punycode to http://📙.la/

    🐶 is URL-encoded to %F0%9F%90%B6

    Giving the 'true' URL http://📙.la/🐶 which then redirects to https://emojipedia.org/dog-face

    Emails should generally use @xn--yt8h.la instead of @📙.la for maximum compatibility. I'm not sure if the email spec allows punycode.

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      #18 seems really bad, like no-one-has-ever-sanity-checked-this bad.

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      #18

      Im still trying to figure out what that means. How does @ resolve to an IP address?

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        Relevant talk from FOSDEM 2018 (warning: poor audio quality): https://youtu.be/xxX81WmXjPg

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          #20

          ::: spoiler My top five from this (all valid):

          • ":(){␣:|:&␣};:"@example.com # fork bomb
          • 👉@👈 and poop@[💩]
          • "@"@[@]
          • c̷̨̈́i̵̮̅l̶̠̐͊͝ȁ̷̠̗̆̍̍n̷͖̘̯̍̈͒̅t̶͍͂͋ř̵̞͈̓ȯ̷̯̠-̸͚̖̟͋s̴͉̦̭̔̆̃͒û̵̥̪͆̒̕c̸̨̨̧̺̎k̵̼͗̀s̸̖̜͍̲̈́͋̂͠@example.com
          • fed-up-yet@␣example.com␣ # ␣ = whitespace
            :::
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            #21

            I had to make an email address just for paypal because those idiots don't accept subdomains in email addresses.

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              Yeah I feel like the correct answer for anything obsoleted by a more recent RFC should be "Invalid".

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              #22

              But they will work, and according to the spec, you have to build your system so that it can handle those cases. Obsolete doesn't mean incorrect or invalid, just a "you shouldn't do this any more".

              Obsolete Syntax
              Earlier versions of this standard allowed for different (usually more
              liberal) syntax than is allowed in this version. Also, there have
              been syntactic elements used in messages on the Internet whose
              interpretation have never been documented. Though some of these
              syntactic forms MUST NOT be generated according to the grammar in
              section 3, they MUST be accepted and parsed by a conformant receiver.

              https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2822#section-4

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                #23

                ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
                Email addresses can have comments?!
                :::

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                • nessd@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                  14 / 21

                  This is the score you get when you answer "valid" for every question. Good job.

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                  I didn't do that but got 14 anyway.

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                  • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

                    I didn't do that but got 14 anyway.

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                    #25

                    Also didn't do that, but that was the text

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                      ::: spoiler My top five from this (all valid):

                      • ":(){␣:|:&␣};:"@example.com # fork bomb
                      • 👉@👈 and poop@[💩]
                      • "@"@[@]
                      • c̷̨̈́i̵̮̅l̶̠̐͊͝ȁ̷̠̗̆̍̍n̷͖̘̯̍̈͒̅t̶͍͂͋ř̵̞͈̓ȯ̷̯̠-̸͚̖̟͋s̴͉̦̭̔̆̃͒û̵̥̪͆̒̕c̸̨̨̧̺̎k̵̼͗̀s̸̖̜͍̲̈́͋̂͠@example.com
                      • fed-up-yet@␣example.com␣ # ␣ = whitespace
                        :::
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                      Spoilers!

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                        #27

                        Question 5 is incorrect, name@example is a fully valid email address, even after RFC 2822

                        The spec of RFC 2822 defines an address (3.4.1) as:

                        local-part "@" domain
                        

                        domain is defined (3.4.1) as:

                        domain = dot-atom / domain-literal / obs-domain
                        

                        dot-atom is defined (3.2.4) as:

                        dot-atom = [CFWS] dot-atom-text [CFWS]
                        dot-atom-text = 1*atext *("." 1*atext)
                        

                        1*atext meaning at least 1 alphanumeric character, followed by *("." 1*atext) meaning at least 0 "." 1*atext


                        If tomorrow, google decided to use its google top-level domain as an email domain, it would be perfectly valid, as could any other company owning top-level domains

                        Google even owns a gmail TLD so I wouldn't even be surprised if they decided to use it

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                          I scored 13/21 on https://e-mail.wtf/ and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

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                            #29

                            Two of my "favorite" features it didn't even touch on. You can have nested comments:

                            foo(one(two(three(four(five(six(seven)))))))@example.com
                            

                            This will actually fail on that big email regex that gets copied around (originally from Mastering Regular Expressions in 1997), because it can only handle comment nesting to a depth of six. It is actually possible to do indefinite nesting now with recursive regex, but it was developed before that feature existed.

                            RFC822 also allows routing addresses through multiple servers:

                            <@[email protected]:[email protected]>
                            

                            But this is almost always denied on modern email servers because it was abused by spammers.

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                            • nessd@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                              14 / 21

                              This is the score you get when you answer "valid" for every question. Good job.

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                              My score was lower 💀

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                              • bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.deB [email protected]

                                I had to make an email address just for paypal because those idiots don't accept subdomains in email addresses.

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                                Pizza Hut doesn't allow dashes in the domain. This prevents me from ordering Pizza Hut with the email under my personal domain. This can be considered a feature.

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                                • johnedwa@sopuli.xyzJ [email protected]

                                  But they will work, and according to the spec, you have to build your system so that it can handle those cases. Obsolete doesn't mean incorrect or invalid, just a "you shouldn't do this any more".

                                  Obsolete Syntax
                                  Earlier versions of this standard allowed for different (usually more
                                  liberal) syntax than is allowed in this version. Also, there have
                                  been syntactic elements used in messages on the Internet whose
                                  interpretation have never been documented. Though some of these
                                  syntactic forms MUST NOT be generated according to the grammar in
                                  section 3, they MUST be accepted and parsed by a conformant receiver.

                                  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc2822#section-4

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                                  Some of those "obsolete" things are outright blocked for specific reasons. For example, routing addresses through multiple servers. It was abused by spammers, so it's almost always denied these days.

                                  Looks like this:

                                  <@[email protected]:[email protected]>
                                  
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                                    Yeah I feel like the correct answer for anything obsoleted by a more recent RFC should be "Invalid".

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                                    Complaints about the quiz? Send them to 💩@💩

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                                      Question 5 is incorrect, name@example is a fully valid email address, even after RFC 2822

                                      The spec of RFC 2822 defines an address (3.4.1) as:

                                      local-part "@" domain
                                      

                                      domain is defined (3.4.1) as:

                                      domain = dot-atom / domain-literal / obs-domain
                                      

                                      dot-atom is defined (3.2.4) as:

                                      dot-atom = [CFWS] dot-atom-text [CFWS]
                                      dot-atom-text = 1*atext *("." 1*atext)
                                      

                                      1*atext meaning at least 1 alphanumeric character, followed by *("." 1*atext) meaning at least 0 "." 1*atext


                                      If tomorrow, google decided to use its google top-level domain as an email domain, it would be perfectly valid, as could any other company owning top-level domains

                                      Google even owns a gmail TLD so I wouldn't even be surprised if they decided to use it

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                                      I don't know if they changes the answer to the question, but it now says name@example is valid.

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                                        I don't know if they changes the answer to the question, but it now says name@example is valid.

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                                        It says valid but obsolete, which sounds like a contradiction to me.

                                        This is technically valid but considered obsolete. RFC 822 allowed domains without dots, but RFC 2822 made this obsolete.

                                        Do email suffix not indicate a different domain like .org and .com for websites?

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                                        • hellfire103@lemmy.caH [email protected]

                                          I scored 13/21 on https://e-mail.wtf/ and all I got was this lousy text to share on social media.

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                                          5/21 for me LoL 😂

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