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How do you introduce the Fediverse to other people?

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  • F [email protected]

    Guys, when you talk about the Fediverse to friends, family, or colleagues, how do you explain it?

    Do you call it a “decentralized social network,” an “alternative to big tech,” or “a collection of open-source networks”?
    And how do you convince someone to create an account on Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed, etc., without them getting scared by technical terms like instance, federated, or peer-to-peer?

    I’m asking because my so-called friends don’t believe me and even call me crazy when I talk about this “nonsense.”

    The future is open source, decentralized, and federated!

    reverendender@sh.itjust.worksR This user is from outside of this forum
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    Unsuccessfully so far, that’s for sure

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    • F [email protected]

      Guys, when you talk about the Fediverse to friends, family, or colleagues, how do you explain it?

      Do you call it a “decentralized social network,” an “alternative to big tech,” or “a collection of open-source networks”?
      And how do you convince someone to create an account on Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed, etc., without them getting scared by technical terms like instance, federated, or peer-to-peer?

      I’m asking because my so-called friends don’t believe me and even call me crazy when I talk about this “nonsense.”

      The future is open source, decentralized, and federated!

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      wrote last edited by [email protected]
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      I don't really bother until they're looking for an alternative.

      When I've put people on Linux, to make an analogy, it's basically been because they entrust me with their choice of new computer, not because I won an argument about the relative merits of different software licences.

      Most people IRL aren't even on Reddit, so Lemmy wouldn't make any sense for them. People might be on Twitter, but for whatever reason it hasn't come up, so no Mastodon either. Mostly I hear about Tiktok and Instagram for the young, and Facebook for the old. Pixelfed is Instagram-ish IIRC, but I'm not sure how active it is.

      Edit: And if people want whichever platform they have the most friends on, well, they're obviously in the last 50% of the population you can recruit.

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      • F [email protected]

        Guys, when you talk about the Fediverse to friends, family, or colleagues, how do you explain it?

        Do you call it a “decentralized social network,” an “alternative to big tech,” or “a collection of open-source networks”?
        And how do you convince someone to create an account on Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed, etc., without them getting scared by technical terms like instance, federated, or peer-to-peer?

        I’m asking because my so-called friends don’t believe me and even call me crazy when I talk about this “nonsense.”

        The future is open source, decentralized, and federated!

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        The amount of gatekeeping I'm seeing here is insane

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        • F [email protected]

          Guys, when you talk about the Fediverse to friends, family, or colleagues, how do you explain it?

          Do you call it a “decentralized social network,” an “alternative to big tech,” or “a collection of open-source networks”?
          And how do you convince someone to create an account on Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed, etc., without them getting scared by technical terms like instance, federated, or peer-to-peer?

          I’m asking because my so-called friends don’t believe me and even call me crazy when I talk about this “nonsense.”

          The future is open source, decentralized, and federated!

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          I link them to a post i think they'll like. Then if they ask i say "its like email the servers send around the posts and comments around to each other, but some are blocked from each other to keep out known bad actors (kind of like known spam email servers)"

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          • F [email protected]

            Guys, when you talk about the Fediverse to friends, family, or colleagues, how do you explain it?

            Do you call it a “decentralized social network,” an “alternative to big tech,” or “a collection of open-source networks”?
            And how do you convince someone to create an account on Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed, etc., without them getting scared by technical terms like instance, federated, or peer-to-peer?

            I’m asking because my so-called friends don’t believe me and even call me crazy when I talk about this “nonsense.”

            The future is open source, decentralized, and federated!

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            Open source Reddit alternative

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            • A [email protected]

              I just describe it as an online forum I like to argue in. 🤷

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              Name checks out

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              • F [email protected]

                Guys, when you talk about the Fediverse to friends, family, or colleagues, how do you explain it?

                Do you call it a “decentralized social network,” an “alternative to big tech,” or “a collection of open-source networks”?
                And how do you convince someone to create an account on Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed, etc., without them getting scared by technical terms like instance, federated, or peer-to-peer?

                I’m asking because my so-called friends don’t believe me and even call me crazy when I talk about this “nonsense.”

                The future is open source, decentralized, and federated!

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                I'll be honest, I still don't understand how Twitter-style social media works. If people can figure that crap out and it became one of the most popular forms of social media, they most absolutely can figure out the fediverse.

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                • F [email protected]

                  Guys, when you talk about the Fediverse to friends, family, or colleagues, how do you explain it?

                  Do you call it a “decentralized social network,” an “alternative to big tech,” or “a collection of open-source networks”?
                  And how do you convince someone to create an account on Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed, etc., without them getting scared by technical terms like instance, federated, or peer-to-peer?

                  I’m asking because my so-called friends don’t believe me and even call me crazy when I talk about this “nonsense.”

                  The future is open source, decentralized, and federated!

                  tuuktuuk@piefed.eeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #36

                  The whole thing with federating is irrelevant to most users.

                  I tell them it's a social media built in a way that makes it impossible for any company to take over it in order to make profit. And then I show them to some instance I've hand-picked for them, without really telling them there are other instances as well. It's not something they should worry about at that point. I can explain it later on, anyway.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    I don't. Even I don't like it here. I'm just a man of principle so I'm not going back to Reddit so this'll have to do.

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                    Why do you not like it here? What can/should be done differently?

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                    • modernrisk@lemmy.dbzer0.comM [email protected]

                      I don’t introduce them to Fediverse and don’t talk about it None of the people I know in real life are tech-savvy except one guy.

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                      #38

                      You don't need to be tech-savvy to use a social media.

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                      • F [email protected]

                        Guys, when you talk about the Fediverse to friends, family, or colleagues, how do you explain it?

                        Do you call it a “decentralized social network,” an “alternative to big tech,” or “a collection of open-source networks”?
                        And how do you convince someone to create an account on Mastodon, Lemmy, Pixelfed, etc., without them getting scared by technical terms like instance, federated, or peer-to-peer?

                        I’m asking because my so-called friends don’t believe me and even call me crazy when I talk about this “nonsense.”

                        The future is open source, decentralized, and federated!

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                        #39

                        I don't bother explaining it unless asked. I just share content with them. They can figure it out if they're interested.

                        If I am asked, then it's "a decentralized platform similar to...." whatever. Most folks are "don't know, don't care" when it comes to anything technical.

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                        • P [email protected]

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                          It's better to be coherent than not, Miss Princess. 😁

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                          • tuuktuuk@piefed.eeT [email protected]

                            The whole thing with federating is irrelevant to most users.

                            I tell them it's a social media built in a way that makes it impossible for any company to take over it in order to make profit. And then I show them to some instance I've hand-picked for them, without really telling them there are other instances as well. It's not something they should worry about at that point. I can explain it later on, anyway.

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                            The whole thing with federating is irrelevant to most users.

                            I tell them it’s a social media built in a way that makes it impossible for any company to take over it in order to make profit. And then I show them to some instance I’ve hand-picked for them, without really telling them there are other instances as well. It’s not something they should worry about at that point. I can explain it later on, anyway.
                            interesting!

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                            • O [email protected]

                              My main talking points focus on the lack of personalized feed, no advertising, no one corporation with political motivation is in control of it, clear moderation log, etc.

                              I think the key is that you have to show them why the platform they’re already using isn’t in their best interest. Why use Lemmy when they already have Reddit? Why use Piefed when they already have Instagram? Most people don’t realize the surveillance social media puts them under or how its personalized feeds manipulate their state of mind.

                              Until you explain that, it’s hard to give any reason to try anything other than what they’re already used to.

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                              #42

                              exactly!

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                              • wesker@lemmy.sdf.orgW [email protected]

                                I don't, because they'll ruin it.

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                                I don’t, because they’ll ruin it.

                                lmao

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                                • etherwhack@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                                  on Lemmy."

                                  If they ask and are genuinely curious what that is, I tell them it's like a reddit offshoot, but the users control the network and servers with a high level of transparency in administration/moderation and run off software that can have tens of thousands of crowdsourced eyes helping to find and fix any bug or security issue.

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                                  on Lemmy.”

                                  If they ask and are genuinely curious what that is, I tell them it’s like a reddit offshoot, but the users control the network and servers with a high level of transparency in administration/moderation and run off software that can have tens of thousands of crowdsourced eyes helping to find and fix any bug or security issue.

                                  interesting!

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                                  • Y [email protected]

                                    "Lemmy is like Reddit the same way Linux is like windows. Its not really as good, but turbonerds will give you a thousand reasons why its better and you wont really understand."

                                    "Its not filled with wankers and bots yet though so its got that going for it."

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                                    “Its not filled with wankers and bots yet though so its got that going for it.”

                                    hahaha
                                    I use Arch, btw

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                                    • mcbenavides85@piefed.socialM [email protected]

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                                      Lmao, exactly me!

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                                      • tuuktuuk@piefed.eeT [email protected]

                                        Why do you not like it here? What can/should be done differently?

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                                        Quite a homogenous user base with incredibly predictable reactions and views on world events, and the feed is basically just US politics and other news articles designed to make people angry or reinforce their pre-existing beliefs. This simply isn’t a fun place to be. The so-called “regrettable minutes” make up a really high percentage of the total time spent here. And that’s even after I’ve blocked virtually all of the worst communities and users, as well as built a long list of content filters based on keywords. I just have no desire to recommend anyone come here, since I’d consider that bad advice. This is a perfect example of what’s wrong with social media. Reddit’s nowhere near perfect either, but I was much less unhappy there.

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                                        • tuuktuuk@piefed.eeT [email protected]

                                          You don't need to be tech-savvy to use a social media.

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                                          You don't need to be tech-savvy to use a social media.

                                          You are entirely right when it is about centralized social media (Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, Twitter and the likes).

                                          However, for example; Lemmy and Mastodon you at least need to be a bit tech-savvy.

                                          • Making account is different but then you get;
                                          1. The multiple instances.
                                          2. Multiple communities that are the same name.
                                          3. What is exactly decentralization.
                                          4. Federation.
                                          5. Difference instances can give different results (blocking, rules, and what you can and cannot see from other instances).
                                          6. How Moderation works is different than the usual platforms.
                                          7. Community discovery is different. Searching for something can be quite difficult on Lemmy.
                                          8. Lemmy’s community has a lot of tech-jargon which non-tech savvy people might find difficult to wrap their head around.
                                          9. How the banning system works on Lemmy is different than the usual platforms as well.
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