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Bluesky made more money selling T-shirts mocking Mark Zuckerberg in one day than it has in two years of selling custom domains

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

    ActivityPub already existed when they started BlueSky. They chose to not make their protocol compatible.

    Traditionally, that's what new major version numbers are for. IF (and I stress the "if" because I have no clue about protocol design) it turns out that AT has useful features, a merger of ideas of both ActivityPub and AT could lead to ActivityPub 2.0.

    That would be somewhat similar to AMD's proprietary Mantle leading to Vulkan (which was originally intended to launch as OpenGL 5.0).

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    AP is flexible enough that you can do most AT stuff within AP.

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      He's not doing those roman salutes in public yet, though.

      But it's kinda funny that the oligarchs are so obsessed with Rome, famous for baking a fallen empire, while enabling the fall of the US.

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      And Nazis. Maybe, just maybe it has something to do with unchecked power?

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      • B [email protected]

        Roman empire, like the nordic pagan BS is also a (extreme) right-wing fetish.
        So glad to see our new PM celebrating his election win like this:

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        Which country? Looks like a swede in italy 😋

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        • cabbage@piefed.socialC [email protected]

          Or non-profits that are willing to accept money from supporters.

          The fact that we don't see this yet, and that Bluesky has accepted the amount of money they have from actors I would not want to be associated with, makes me doubt this is possible.

          Even if a non-profit wanted to operate with good intentions, the expense of running an AT proto hub would eventually prove a challenge, and the non-profit would either go under or need to start looking around for money. Meanwhile people can self-host their Mastodon instance on a Raspberry Pi.

          Regarding the alleged missing features of ActivityPub, I have tried and failed to understand exactly which feature is the AT proto so desperately want that they found it impossible to achieve through ActivityPub. The whole thing with having a mobile identity or whatever seems like a nothing burger to me - at the end of the day it just means that your user name is your DID number, and that web addresses can redirect towards that one. It's hardly some technological marvel that could never have been achieved on a less centralized protocol.

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          It can be done on the fediverse anyway.

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          • cabbage@piefed.socialC [email protected]

            I guess that's fair, as a way to make users identifiable with the same user name all over the internet, no matter which platform they are on.

            When people sign in using bluesky on https://frontpage.fyi/, they are still bluesky accounts? Or does the account somehow transform into something that exists between both sites?

            Is there any real innovation here beyond a combination of "sign in with x service" and having your domain appear as your user name?

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            frontpage will store its data on your user server.

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            • E [email protected]

              I feel like if anybody knows anything about history that's the thing they know.

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              And who killed hitler

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              • cabbage@piefed.socialC [email protected]

                But on frontpage.fyi, if you want to sign up, you have to sign up through Bluesky. They direct you to bsky.app to create your account.

                I just don't see how this is a real functional example of a portable account. Maybe it is not supposed to be - if so, is the decentralized nature of accounts demonstrated anywhere in a practical way?

                I struggle to understand things I cannot see.

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                You can login with any pds (personal data server) on frontpage, i can self host my own one, and login with it on frontpage.

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                • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                  You can login with any pds (personal data server) on frontpage, i can self host my own one, and login with it on frontpage.

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                  Okay, that's more interesting! Thanks!

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                  • cabbage@piefed.socialC [email protected]

                    Okay, that's more interesting! Thanks!

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                    Its still not really decentralised, because all the pds's need to be crawled by a relay, but its still a pretty cool technology.
                    Someone made flushes.app which I think is a good demonstration of how it can be used.

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                    • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                      Its still not really decentralised, because all the pds's need to be crawled by a relay, but its still a pretty cool technology.
                      Someone made flushes.app which I think is a good demonstration of how it can be used.

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                      Cool.

                      It's funny how one of the main criticisms of ActivityPub is that it's too difficult to implement, yet after all this attention the best the ATmosphere has managed to come up with is a toilet flushing repository. But I see the value of the portable identity. I think.

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                      • cabbage@piefed.socialC [email protected]

                        Cool.

                        It's funny how one of the main criticisms of ActivityPub is that it's too difficult to implement, yet after all this attention the best the ATmosphere has managed to come up with is a toilet flushing repository. But I see the value of the portable identity. I think.

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                        Well, its easy to build an app on atproto, but lord forbid you want to do anything with a pds.
                        The activitypub spec is so much easier to read and understand than the pds spec.

                        Also, portable identity is possible on activitypub as well, its just not implemented in many projects.

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                        • D [email protected]

                          Free services? Where?

                          Free services don't really exist.

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                          You're saying this on lemmy.

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                            So is lemmy or mastodon selling shirts yet? if not, why not?

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                            Mastodon has merch, but it sells out near-instantly.

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                            • alphane_moon@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                              Their custom domain business can't be big, I am assuming they merely get some referral commission from sending business to a registrar, that can't be a lot of money.

                              Or am I missing something?

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                              True, but they also just don't fucking advertise it at all, and its on a forgotten subdomain only linked to in a blogpost, and the date on the page still says 2023 at the bottom.

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                              • G [email protected]

                                Zuckerberg wears t-shirts comparing himself to Julius Caesar? Why is that every time I think I’m up-to-date on the latest weirdness there’s more of it?

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                                I wonder why all these high profile people are so fascinated with a dictator that oversaw the transformation of a republic into an empire. Just like fascists were/are. Must be just a coincidence! Just like that Musk salute from the heart.

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                                • sharkattak@kbin.melroy.orgS [email protected]

                                  What about "Tu quoque, Brute"?

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                                  Would be cool to pretend stab this guy in the metaverse to remind him what happens to Caesars.

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                                  • B [email protected]

                                    Roman empire, like the nordic pagan BS is also a (extreme) right-wing fetish.
                                    So glad to see our new PM celebrating his election win like this:

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                                    Lol his face... It's like he knows this is a bad idea and he has no idea how he ended up there.

                                    That or he's just an idiot and his face always looks like that.

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                                    • thebat@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                      Noted: Avoid Belgium if I ever go to Europe.

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                                      You can avoid the whole of Europe, most countries are getting closer to the 4th reich.
                                      Almost time to send the kids to the eastern front again.

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                                      • D [email protected]

                                        You can also hear it every day if you’re an English speaker. The Roman conquest of England greatly affected the English language.

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                                        Yes but I can't let this chance go by to piss off the English and say they're a German colony, the country they love to hate.
                                        Speak a germanic language.
                                        England, literally land of the Angle. Where are the Angle from?
                                        And who's the other part of the Anglo-Saxons?
                                        Ruled by....The Windsors? Doesn't sound right.
                                        Or did they change their Von Saxen-Gotha name for some mysterious reason in 1914?

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                                          Lol his face... It's like he knows this is a bad idea and he has no idea how he ended up there.

                                          That or he's just an idiot and his face always looks like that.

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                                          Poor thing is his son, molded by daddy.
                                          You should see the video, he just looks scary in it. The empty look, no thoughts, just following orders.
                                          His sister already had mental problems at a young age and got help, this one doesn't know it yet.

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