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  • A [email protected]

    Pusha T has rapped alnost exclusively about selling cocaine for like 30 years at this point. Let's not act like drug use/dealing isn't a major theme in a lot of hiphop.

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    I think the idea here is not to say that hiphop/rap does not talk about or even glorify drug use/violence/misoginy, but rather that most popular music styles do, in this specific case classic country.

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      Genesis' Carpet Crawlers (lyrics) wants a word.

      One of the most graphically sexual songs I've ever heard. The only other contender is literally about pet play.

      Edit: the Carpet Crawlers are literally sperm. People never believe me until I start breaking it down, and then they're like, "holy fuck, how did they get away with this?"

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        But how much does classic rock really have if you remove all of the sexualization of children?

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        • mossyfeathers@pawb.socialM [email protected]

          Genesis' Carpet Crawlers (lyrics) wants a word.

          One of the most graphically sexual songs I've ever heard. The only other contender is literally about pet play.

          Edit: the Carpet Crawlers are literally sperm. People never believe me until I start breaking it down, and then they're like, "holy fuck, how did they get away with this?"

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          considering peter gabriel's other stuff idk if that's the correct interpretation.

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            Semi-Charmed Life by Third Eye Blind literally is about meth and falling asleep inside a chick, but we all liked it cause it went 🎶do do doo

            Edit: sorry, its also about cocaine

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              Nirvana be like:

              Rape Me - Not about rape at all.

              Polly - About a very specific rape case.

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                Bessie Smith, 1931

                Need A Little Sugar in My Bowl

                The song is often remembered for its sexually suggestive lyrics, in which Smith pleads with her "hard papa", saying that she needs "a little sugar, in my bowl, doggone it". Continuing the double entendre, the song also expresses the need for "a little hot dog between my rolls" and concludes, "Stop your foolin' and drop somethin' in my bowl."[22]

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                • lime@feddit.nuL [email protected]

                  considering peter gabriel's other stuff idk if that's the correct interpretation.

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                  Considering the previous song on the album was painfully obviously about sex, and The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is a rock opera....

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                    Considering the previous song on the album was painfully obviously about sex, and The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is a rock opera....

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                    i mean it may tie in, but it doesn't fit with the track after if it just continues the metaphor.

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                      Semi-Charmed Life by Third Eye Blind literally is about meth and falling asleep inside a chick, but we all liked it cause it went 🎶do do doo

                      Edit: sorry, its also about cocaine

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                      it was also a banger, soooo

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                        ?

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                          In Johnny Cash's "Live from Folsom Prison" album there is a song called 'cocaine blues'. The first verse goes like this:

                          early one morning while making the rounds

                          I took a shot of cocaine and I shot my woman down

                          I went right home and I went to bed

                          I stuck that loving forty-four beneath my head.

                          I keep this in my back pocket when conservatives claim that Rap and Hip Hop glorify violence, guns, misogyny, and drug use. I defy you to find something from NAS or Killer Mike that can compete on the level of classic country.

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                          Using 2 of the most lyrically gifted rappers is cheating. WAP exists.

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                            But how much does classic rock really have if you remove all of the sexualization of children?

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                            More than you'd expect I imagine. Lots of blues.

                            Aerosmith is outright gone (probably for the best. They cant make it through a single song without talking about it)

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                              it was also a banger, soooo

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                              True true

                              Just crazy that that's one of the first songs I can remember playing on the radio and finding out much later what its about haha

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                                In grade school music class they had us sing "someone's in the kitchen with Dina strumming on the ol' banjo" and "jump down turn around pick a bale of cotton"

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                                  Nirvana be like:

                                  Rape Me - Not about rape at all.

                                  Polly - About a very specific rape case.

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                                  Rape me is the follow-up song to Polly

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                                    Momma has a squeezebox daddy don't sleep at night

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                                    • J [email protected]

                                      I 100% agree with the idea that rap is certainly not the only genre to glorify violence, drugs, etc. But the specific song choice is not really a great example in my opinion considering the last verse is

                                      C'mon you gotta listen unto me

                                      lay off that whiskey, and let that cocaine be.

                                      This song always struck me as a cautionary tale. Nothing about the song really seems to glorify the behavior.

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                                      That is true (I love Cash and listened to a lot of his music), but a lot of cons will just take it at face value, same way they do with Punisher.

                                      Btw, Cash has this "shot my woman down" motif in other songs, like Delia's Gone, and always they end badly, like with him in jail. Too bad the cons only listen to those and skip pieces like San Quentin or Man in Black.

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                                      • Y [email protected]

                                        In Johnny Cash's "Live from Folsom Prison" album there is a song called 'cocaine blues'. The first verse goes like this:

                                        early one morning while making the rounds

                                        I took a shot of cocaine and I shot my woman down

                                        I went right home and I went to bed

                                        I stuck that loving forty-four beneath my head.

                                        I keep this in my back pocket when conservatives claim that Rap and Hip Hop glorify violence, guns, misogyny, and drug use. I defy you to find something from NAS or Killer Mike that can compete on the level of classic country.

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                                        It's bordering on conspiracy, but there's an argument to be made that record labels pushed gangster rap and downplayed others to keep black communities down.

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                                        • mossyfeathers@pawb.socialM [email protected]

                                          Genesis' Carpet Crawlers (lyrics) wants a word.

                                          One of the most graphically sexual songs I've ever heard. The only other contender is literally about pet play.

                                          Edit: the Carpet Crawlers are literally sperm. People never believe me until I start breaking it down, and then they're like, "holy fuck, how did they get away with this?"

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                                          You should check out the Liza and Louise songs by NOFX lol

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