Graffiti seen in Barcelona, Catalonia
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In Barcelona?
Not everything is solely an american issue, even (especially) when it comes to US companies.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Classic Lemmy where someone says "not every is American" in response to an issue that actually does apply to them
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lol who said this
The people letting AirBNBs!
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Since no one is answering seriously, I will try. There is a distinct difference in anarchist philosophy between property and possession which I will try to explain with housing.
Property is something that is used to oppress people. Which is why anarchist philosophy aims to abolish all property. In this case, housing that is being used for Airbnbs takes a house from someone that could use it to create a home for themselves and their family and instead uses that land and building to make a profit .
Possession on the other hand would be someone using that land and building to make a home for themselves and their family, not to make a profit but to survive and exist.
Owning one home for yourself is not a property but a possession but owning multiple homes that you use to make a profit is property. So the anarchist solution to this is to give that Airbnb to someone who could make it into a permanent home, not a short term rental.
If property doesn't exist, you can't go on vacation though.
When you leave your house, someone else can just come in and take it for himself.
You couldn't even go for a walk. The moment you leave the house you stop "possessing" it.
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- progressive taxation of properties that are not a primary residence. Rachet up the taxation for each additional property. I think their should be a certain amount of relief for actually maintaining the building and renting to Section 8/affordable housing programs
- actually enforce zoning. A short term rental is a hotel business and should require a commercial business license and respect the zoning associated with that type of license
I fucking hate 2010 venture capital companies like AirBnb and Uber. Flaunt the law in a sexy way, loss lead with the capital to build market share, then crank the price up.
It’s always bullshit behind a convenient app with great UI
Man, if only there were some organisation that were powerful enough to enforce these rules against people who don't want to follow them.
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- progressive taxation of properties that are not a primary residence. Rachet up the taxation for each additional property. I think their should be a certain amount of relief for actually maintaining the building and renting to Section 8/affordable housing programs
- actually enforce zoning. A short term rental is a hotel business and should require a commercial business license and respect the zoning associated with that type of license
I fucking hate 2010 venture capital companies like AirBnb and Uber. Flaunt the law in a sexy way, loss lead with the capital to build market share, then crank the price up.
It’s always bullshit behind a convenient app with great UI
Aren't taxes and zoning non-existent under anarchy?
If there is no state, there is no one to pay taxes to. And if there is no state, there is no one to make and enforce zoning laws.
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Do you even know what anarchism is like at all?
Pasting the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article here:
Anarchism is a political philosophy and movement that seeks to abolish all institutions that perpetuate authority, coercion, or hierarchy, primarily targeting the state and capitalism. Anarchism advocates for the replacement of the state with stateless societies and voluntary free associations. A historically left-wing movement, anarchism is usually described as the libertarian wing of the socialist movement (libertarian socialism).
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The people letting AirBNBs!
Okay, but who. I want the name of a specific person or organisation and a link to where they said that. Because it's such a stupid statement that I'm not going to just take someone's word that someone was dumb enough to say it or thought people would be dumb enough to believe it.
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If property doesn't exist, you can't go on vacation though.
When you leave your house, someone else can just come in and take it for himself.
You couldn't even go for a walk. The moment you leave the house you stop "possessing" it.
It is absolutely possible to go on vacation without oppressing or exploiting others. It happens all the time. You can avoid Airbnbs and stay in a hotel, camp, sleep in a car, or just stay home.
I really don't understand how you came to the conclusion that you cease possession of something the moment you end physical contact with it. You're gonna have to walk me through that one if you want to actually argue that point.
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I've never understood the appeal of AirBNBs, letting complete strangers stay at my house sounds like it'd be an absolute NIGHTMARE.
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Okay, but who. I want the name of a specific person or organisation and a link to where they said that. Because it's such a stupid statement that I'm not going to just take someone's word that someone was dumb enough to say it or thought people would be dumb enough to believe it.
It was all over the BC online forums when the province banned short term rentals outside primary residence.
There were op eds, bad studies, lying companies etc. Here a few from quick internet search
A crappy study trying to gaslight people. This was all over. https://www.biv.com/news/real-estate/airbnbs-dont-cause-residential-rent-increases-conference-board-8273746
Air bnb makes the argument they aren't responsible
https://www.airbnb.ca/e/closerlookArguing it lowers costs
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Airbnb used to be great.. I could rent out a spare room and make a bit of cash. Then the developers, and the people who weren't responsible enough to be landlords had to make houses that were all AirBnb.
Why don't these places vet Airbnbs instead of straight banning it. Owner occupied dwellings should get a pass.
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If property doesn't exist, you can't go on vacation though.
When you leave your house, someone else can just come in and take it for himself.
You couldn't even go for a walk. The moment you leave the house you stop "possessing" it.
If property doesn’t exist, you can’t go on vacation though.
We're getting dangerously close to "under Communism, you will share a toothbrush"
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Okay, but who. I want the name of a specific person or organisation and a link to where they said that. Because it's such a stupid statement that I'm not going to just take someone's word that someone was dumb enough to say it or thought people would be dumb enough to believe it.
Sorry, I thought you were joking and was playing along!
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Air bnbs are a cancer. You should be ashamed of yourself if your buying property then renting it out. With what they charge they are able to pay tge mortgage in 3 nights
Funny how we vilify those who are renting it out, but not those that are renting. Its the scalper argument all over again. Blaming the seller, but not the buyer who creates the market. If no one rents, then no one is going to buy to set up an airbnb.
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I've never understood the appeal of AirBNBs, letting complete strangers stay at my house sounds like it'd be an absolute NIGHTMARE.
It's not people's houses anymore. It's all property investors.
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why would anarchism be a solution to this, surely it would make it worse?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Pardon the confusion. This is Lemmy, anarchism is a utopistic solution where everyone sings kumbaya and gets along, not an apocalyptic hellscape where the people with the most guns amass all power. Fortunately, there has never been a societal experiment to determine what anarchy really is, so no one has to be proven wrong.
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Funny how we vilify those who are renting it out, but not those that are renting. Its the scalper argument all over again. Blaming the seller, but not the buyer who creates the market. If no one rents, then no one is going to buy to set up an airbnb.
What about induced demand?
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Pardon the confusion. This is Lemmy, anarchism is a utopistic solution where everyone sings kumbaya and gets along, not an apocalyptic hellscape where the people with the most guns amass all power. Fortunately, there has never been a societal experiment to determine what anarchy really is, so no one has to be proven wrong.
wrote last edited by [email protected]not an apocalyptic hellscape where the people with the most guns amass all powerHahaha yeah that's totally not what capitalism is at all, right guys? ...right?
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Funny how we vilify those who are renting it out, but not those that are renting. Its the scalper argument all over again. Blaming the seller, but not the buyer who creates the market. If no one rents, then no one is going to buy to set up an airbnb.
And this is why governemental regulation is the only way and why capitalism has its problems: Capitalists blaming the consumenr for the existing market. People will use the offer the capitalists create for them if it is convenient for them and they draw an advantage from it. Of course you can always blame the consumer, and protect the guy who out of pure compassion creates a market that destroys our world even faster. But hey, at least someone profitet from it in the meanwhile.
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Cute. Who protects the property? Mutual Aid sounds nice on paper. The truth of human nature is that the strong will take anything you work to build.
yeah, we don't want the strong taking everything you build. Just bend over and let the rich do it instead, because that's better for some reason
