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Can an energy drink create worsen exhaustion?

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  • Q [email protected]

    I am not a regular consumer of energy drinks. Occasionally, I will buy and drink a can of a specific store brand energy drink, especially when the day is really hot. I enjoy the flavour.

    What I've been taking note is that, usually, two days after drinking it, I will feel extremely psychically tired. I can sleep normally, even better, to a degree, have more dreams and even feel more mentally active during that period but after those 48 hours, I get extremely tired, to the point I can fall asleep if I stay still for to long. I can maintain myself awake if I remain active.

    The drink itself has no unusual ingredients - taurine, guarana, caffeine, ginseng - but for some reason I am still unable to understand, it is the only one that affects me like this.

    Note 1: I do not drink coffee. Caffeine from real coffee somehow alters my blood pressure radically. These energy drinks do not.

    Note 2: I once drank one specific energy drink - a Battery - that kept me awake and functioning for nearly 60 hours. I was physically unable to sleep. When whatever kept me going ran out I slept for 30 hours straight.

    Has anyone ever went through something like this?

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    I think that the other things in energy drinks, not the caffeine, do worsen exhaustion if you consume too much. I know of someone who's had it happen to them when they drank too much of an energy drink (Monster in particular from what I remember).

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      Absolutely.

      You’re sensitive to caffeine because you never consume it. Your body may be a bit more sensitive than average.

      When you drink one, besides the effects you perceive, the caffeine will interrupt your sleep. Particularly if you drink it later in the day, because it’s hotter in the afternoon than morning. The half life of caffeine is the half life. A massive dose of caffeine takes time to get out of your system, and while the decline is exponential, it’s still going to be meaningfully present for 12+ hrs, which is definitely going to interrupt your sleep.

      Add on a lot of cortisol and probably some extra activity, which could be physical or psychological, and you got a recipe for exhaustion.

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      I call this effect borrowing energy from the future.

      I used to drink around 3 big mugs of coffee a day. Then I just stopped, cold turkey. Took a few months to get adjusted. But what surprised me, is that ALL tolerance to caffeine is gone. If I drink a cup of black tea, I will feel more focussed for a few hours, and less focussed a day or two afterwards.

      I now only drink caffeine strategically. If I think todays problems are more important than the next two days problems, I drink some black tea or a cup of coffee. Otherwise I stick to decaf coffee, which fills the habit of drinking coffee perfectly.

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      • Q [email protected]

        I am not a regular consumer of energy drinks. Occasionally, I will buy and drink a can of a specific store brand energy drink, especially when the day is really hot. I enjoy the flavour.

        What I've been taking note is that, usually, two days after drinking it, I will feel extremely psychically tired. I can sleep normally, even better, to a degree, have more dreams and even feel more mentally active during that period but after those 48 hours, I get extremely tired, to the point I can fall asleep if I stay still for to long. I can maintain myself awake if I remain active.

        The drink itself has no unusual ingredients - taurine, guarana, caffeine, ginseng - but for some reason I am still unable to understand, it is the only one that affects me like this.

        Note 1: I do not drink coffee. Caffeine from real coffee somehow alters my blood pressure radically. These energy drinks do not.

        Note 2: I once drank one specific energy drink - a Battery - that kept me awake and functioning for nearly 60 hours. I was physically unable to sleep. When whatever kept me going ran out I slept for 30 hours straight.

        Has anyone ever went through something like this?

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        You could just be exceptionally sensitive to caffeine or something else in the drink. Personally, I would just not drink them if I were you. Who cares the underlying reason when you can just not do a thing you rarely do anyway.

        I also love that it makes you psychically tired . Like you're just too beat to do even a single palm reading or to shuffle a deck of tarot cards.

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          I call this effect borrowing energy from the future.

          I used to drink around 3 big mugs of coffee a day. Then I just stopped, cold turkey. Took a few months to get adjusted. But what surprised me, is that ALL tolerance to caffeine is gone. If I drink a cup of black tea, I will feel more focussed for a few hours, and less focussed a day or two afterwards.

          I now only drink caffeine strategically. If I think todays problems are more important than the next two days problems, I drink some black tea or a cup of coffee. Otherwise I stick to decaf coffee, which fills the habit of drinking coffee perfectly.

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          What goes up must come down. Cause And effect. I feel this deeply. I been thinking about this a lot. Glad to see someone else nailed it.

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          • Q [email protected]

            I am not a regular consumer of energy drinks. Occasionally, I will buy and drink a can of a specific store brand energy drink, especially when the day is really hot. I enjoy the flavour.

            What I've been taking note is that, usually, two days after drinking it, I will feel extremely psychically tired. I can sleep normally, even better, to a degree, have more dreams and even feel more mentally active during that period but after those 48 hours, I get extremely tired, to the point I can fall asleep if I stay still for to long. I can maintain myself awake if I remain active.

            The drink itself has no unusual ingredients - taurine, guarana, caffeine, ginseng - but for some reason I am still unable to understand, it is the only one that affects me like this.

            Note 1: I do not drink coffee. Caffeine from real coffee somehow alters my blood pressure radically. These energy drinks do not.

            Note 2: I once drank one specific energy drink - a Battery - that kept me awake and functioning for nearly 60 hours. I was physically unable to sleep. When whatever kept me going ran out I slept for 30 hours straight.

            Has anyone ever went through something like this?

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            Note 1: I do not drink coffee. Caffeine from real coffee somehow alters my blood pressure radically. These energy drinks do not.

            Caffeine is a specific molecule, so there's only one kind of it. You just get a lower dosage from an energy drink.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine

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              Note 1: I do not drink coffee. Caffeine from real coffee somehow alters my blood pressure radically. These energy drinks do not.

              Caffeine is a specific molecule, so there's only one kind of it. You just get a lower dosage from an energy drink.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine

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              I had an acute episode over a single, bad, watered down expresso once, where my blood pressure spiked to 22/18. I could have had a stroke, if it wasn't for timely medical care. Energy drinks don't have the same effect. So either there is another companion molecule on coffee hitting me wrong or something on the energy drinks changes how the caffeine affects me. Even breakfast drinks with very low coffee content causes me headaches and raised blood pressure.

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                Note 1: I do not drink coffee. Caffeine from real coffee somehow alters my blood pressure radically. These energy drinks do not.

                Caffeine is a specific molecule, so there's only one kind of it. You just get a lower dosage from an energy drink.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine

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                Or perhaps other substances. There's been research contrasting coffee effect with different kinds of tea.

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                • Q [email protected]

                  I am not a regular consumer of energy drinks. Occasionally, I will buy and drink a can of a specific store brand energy drink, especially when the day is really hot. I enjoy the flavour.

                  What I've been taking note is that, usually, two days after drinking it, I will feel extremely psychically tired. I can sleep normally, even better, to a degree, have more dreams and even feel more mentally active during that period but after those 48 hours, I get extremely tired, to the point I can fall asleep if I stay still for to long. I can maintain myself awake if I remain active.

                  The drink itself has no unusual ingredients - taurine, guarana, caffeine, ginseng - but for some reason I am still unable to understand, it is the only one that affects me like this.

                  Note 1: I do not drink coffee. Caffeine from real coffee somehow alters my blood pressure radically. These energy drinks do not.

                  Note 2: I once drank one specific energy drink - a Battery - that kept me awake and functioning for nearly 60 hours. I was physically unable to sleep. When whatever kept me going ran out I slept for 30 hours straight.

                  Has anyone ever went through something like this?

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                  Try green tea. Slight perk up. Minimal caffeine. Good antioxidants. Drink no more than 2 a day. Stick to a single one each morning or time of day your groggy. Let your body readjust and you'll feel a lot better.

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                    Try green tea. Slight perk up. Minimal caffeine. Good antioxidants. Drink no more than 2 a day. Stick to a single one each morning or time of day your groggy. Let your body readjust and you'll feel a lot better.

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                    I love a green tea lemonade in the morning, very refreshing

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                      I dont exactly believe theres any correlation here, Im skeptical. It sounds like you would need to consult a doctor or specialist of some kind to get any answers or get a study done, none of what youre talking about is normal.

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                      I agree. There's far too many variables even if OP is a reliable narrator.

                      Why their metabolism of caffeine (half life is only 5 hours normally) is so slow is what I'd look into first with a doctor. A tiny fraction of people metabolize caffeine extremely slowly due to genetic variations in the CYP1A2 enzyme apparently. Another reason is...liver disease.

                      Also, just coffee "radically" altering their blood pressure. Huh? Elaborate OP.

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                        Try green tea. Slight perk up. Minimal caffeine. Good antioxidants. Drink no more than 2 a day. Stick to a single one each morning or time of day your groggy. Let your body readjust and you'll feel a lot better.

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                        Antioxidants in tea is junk science.

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                        • roofuskit@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                          First, it's well established that energy drinks are HORRIBLE for your health.

                          Second, look at the ingredients, large amounts of sugar and a drug.

                          Yes, energy drinks can make you feel worse after the effects of sugar and the drug wear off.

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                          The big problem is the massive amounts of sugar. Diabeatus in a can.

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                            Note 1: I do not drink coffee. Caffeine from real coffee somehow alters my blood pressure radically. These energy drinks do not.

                            Caffeine is a specific molecule, so there's only one kind of it. You just get a lower dosage from an energy drink.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine

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                            Thank you for this. I've been under the impression that energy drinks had more than coffee for years now.

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                              Thank you for this. I've been under the impression that energy drinks had more than coffee for years now.

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                              Had to double-check, so I'm not spouting non-sense. The Wikipedia article says:

                              approximately 100–125 milligrams for a cup (120 milliliters) of drip coffee

                              energy drinks, such as Red Bull, can start at 80 milligrams of caffeine per serving

                              Presumably the energy drink serving size is 250 milliliters. So, I guess, the difference isn't as big, when comparing 1 cup vs. 1 can.

                              But yeah, that it feels like it has more caffeine, is likely just the sugar high.

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                                Had to double-check, so I'm not spouting non-sense. The Wikipedia article says:

                                approximately 100–125 milligrams for a cup (120 milliliters) of drip coffee

                                energy drinks, such as Red Bull, can start at 80 milligrams of caffeine per serving

                                Presumably the energy drink serving size is 250 milliliters. So, I guess, the difference isn't as big, when comparing 1 cup vs. 1 can.

                                But yeah, that it feels like it has more caffeine, is likely just the sugar high.

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                                I know the kind I drink sre just under the recommended daily limit with 350mg in a whole can, and the can is meant to be 2 servings. Sometimes I have 2 cans. 😞

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                                  Had to double-check, so I'm not spouting non-sense. The Wikipedia article says:

                                  approximately 100–125 milligrams for a cup (120 milliliters) of drip coffee

                                  energy drinks, such as Red Bull, can start at 80 milligrams of caffeine per serving

                                  Presumably the energy drink serving size is 250 milliliters. So, I guess, the difference isn't as big, when comparing 1 cup vs. 1 can.

                                  But yeah, that it feels like it has more caffeine, is likely just the sugar high.

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                                  Energy drinks also contain other stimulants of various qualities ranging from b12 to Taurine, C4 uses a different one that managed to jumpstart even my jaded ass to uncomfortable levels after a single can

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                                    Try green tea. Slight perk up. Minimal caffeine. Good antioxidants. Drink no more than 2 a day. Stick to a single one each morning or time of day your groggy. Let your body readjust and you'll feel a lot better.

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                                    The thing is that I don't get groggy. Unless I sleep poorly, which is rare. And tea has no effect on me.

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                                      You could just be exceptionally sensitive to caffeine or something else in the drink. Personally, I would just not drink them if I were you. Who cares the underlying reason when you can just not do a thing you rarely do anyway.

                                      I also love that it makes you psychically tired . Like you're just too beat to do even a single palm reading or to shuffle a deck of tarot cards.

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                                      That was a good one. I set myself up for that, by not checking my autocorrect. Nice one. But i risk I could shuffle a deck; I would probably just let the cars slip between my fingers. Palm reading, it's just not my thing.

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                                        Sure, why not? Different peoples bodies are different. I haven't heard of this effect before, but if it is something you personally are noticing, I would just roll with it.

                                        If you can't do coffee, I suggest tea. In general I think most people should avoid energy drinks. Mostly because they taste gross.

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                                        Flavour is precisely what I enjoy in this kind of drinks. Most soft drinks tend to be too sweet.

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                                        • burgerbaron@piefed.socialB [email protected]

                                          I agree. There's far too many variables even if OP is a reliable narrator.

                                          Why their metabolism of caffeine (half life is only 5 hours normally) is so slow is what I'd look into first with a doctor. A tiny fraction of people metabolize caffeine extremely slowly due to genetic variations in the CYP1A2 enzyme apparently. Another reason is...liver disease.

                                          Also, just coffee "radically" altering their blood pressure. Huh? Elaborate OP.

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                                          Sure. What else do you want to know?

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