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Is there a good "small web" community here on lemmy/fediverse?

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  • M [email protected]

    I have been playing around with https://neocities.org/ and https://techrights.org/gemini/ and found some gemini/gopher links that were pretty cool. I was wondering if we had a community for "small web" sites. AKA sites that are maintained by a small collective or individual hosters.? Or just people wanting to have fun online again?

    EDIT: Thanks everyone!

    I went ahead and created a super-feed for the communities that were identified below:

    https://piefed.social/f/smallweb

    [email protected]

    If your on piefed, you can subscribe. to the feed.

    hubi@feddit.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
    hubi@feddit.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
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    Maybe [email protected] and [email protected]?

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    • M [email protected]

      I have been playing around with https://neocities.org/ and https://techrights.org/gemini/ and found some gemini/gopher links that were pretty cool. I was wondering if we had a community for "small web" sites. AKA sites that are maintained by a small collective or individual hosters.? Or just people wanting to have fun online again?

      EDIT: Thanks everyone!

      I went ahead and created a super-feed for the communities that were identified below:

      https://piefed.social/f/smallweb

      [email protected]

      If your on piefed, you can subscribe. to the feed.

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      T This user is from outside of this forum
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      #3

      It's a bit of a chicken and the egg issue - the tools are there, but the business model of hosting a website is not sustainable for small or niche communities (especially with AI scraping causing strain and horrible ad rates), so not many people are motivated to create them.

      At the same time, unless someone creates and maintains the sites, communities can't form and spread through word of mouth. If you can get a group of like minded folks willing to bear the upfront costs, give it a go, and people will come. But I doubt such sites will spring up on their own anymore in the 2020s.

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      • M [email protected]

        I have been playing around with https://neocities.org/ and https://techrights.org/gemini/ and found some gemini/gopher links that were pretty cool. I was wondering if we had a community for "small web" sites. AKA sites that are maintained by a small collective or individual hosters.? Or just people wanting to have fun online again?

        EDIT: Thanks everyone!

        I went ahead and created a super-feed for the communities that were identified below:

        https://piefed.social/f/smallweb

        [email protected]

        If your on piefed, you can subscribe. to the feed.

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        #4

        Not that I've heard of. But look into webrings

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        • M [email protected]

          I have been playing around with https://neocities.org/ and https://techrights.org/gemini/ and found some gemini/gopher links that were pretty cool. I was wondering if we had a community for "small web" sites. AKA sites that are maintained by a small collective or individual hosters.? Or just people wanting to have fun online again?

          EDIT: Thanks everyone!

          I went ahead and created a super-feed for the communities that were identified below:

          https://piefed.social/f/smallweb

          [email protected]

          If your on piefed, you can subscribe. to the feed.

          libb@piefed.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
          libb@piefed.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #5

          Good question.

          Next to the ones already mentioned there is also [email protected] but there is not much activity going on.

          Maybe we could start by sharing our own personal websites or something like that? What would you say, guys?

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          • M [email protected]

            I have been playing around with https://neocities.org/ and https://techrights.org/gemini/ and found some gemini/gopher links that were pretty cool. I was wondering if we had a community for "small web" sites. AKA sites that are maintained by a small collective or individual hosters.? Or just people wanting to have fun online again?

            EDIT: Thanks everyone!

            I went ahead and created a super-feed for the communities that were identified below:

            https://piefed.social/f/smallweb

            [email protected]

            If your on piefed, you can subscribe. to the feed.

            C This user is from outside of this forum
            C This user is from outside of this forum
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            [email protected]

            [email protected]

            [email protected]

            [email protected]

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            • M [email protected]

              I have been playing around with https://neocities.org/ and https://techrights.org/gemini/ and found some gemini/gopher links that were pretty cool. I was wondering if we had a community for "small web" sites. AKA sites that are maintained by a small collective or individual hosters.? Or just people wanting to have fun online again?

              EDIT: Thanks everyone!

              I went ahead and created a super-feed for the communities that were identified below:

              https://piefed.social/f/smallweb

              [email protected]

              If your on piefed, you can subscribe. to the feed.

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              W This user is from outside of this forum
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              Check the communities on lemmy.sdf.org, there's some for gopher and gemini.

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              • M [email protected]

                I have been playing around with https://neocities.org/ and https://techrights.org/gemini/ and found some gemini/gopher links that were pretty cool. I was wondering if we had a community for "small web" sites. AKA sites that are maintained by a small collective or individual hosters.? Or just people wanting to have fun online again?

                EDIT: Thanks everyone!

                I went ahead and created a super-feed for the communities that were identified below:

                https://piefed.social/f/smallweb

                [email protected]

                If your on piefed, you can subscribe. to the feed.

                N This user is from outside of this forum
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                [email protected]

                E: typo

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                  It's a bit of a chicken and the egg issue - the tools are there, but the business model of hosting a website is not sustainable for small or niche communities (especially with AI scraping causing strain and horrible ad rates), so not many people are motivated to create them.

                  At the same time, unless someone creates and maintains the sites, communities can't form and spread through word of mouth. If you can get a group of like minded folks willing to bear the upfront costs, give it a go, and people will come. But I doubt such sites will spring up on their own anymore in the 2020s.

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                  This reads like someone broken by capitalism. I'm sorry, buddy.

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                    [email protected]

                    E: typo

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                    #10

                    looks like its blocked on piefed 😞 but thanks!

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                    • libb@piefed.socialL [email protected]

                      Good question.

                      Next to the ones already mentioned there is also [email protected] but there is not much activity going on.

                      Maybe we could start by sharing our own personal websites or something like that? What would you say, guys?

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                      #11

                      but there is not much activity going on.

                      It's a .ml comm

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                        but there is not much activity going on.

                        It's a .ml comm

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                        Yeah it looks empty to me cuz i have all .ml blocked lol

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                        • C [email protected]

                          [email protected]

                          [email protected]

                          [email protected]

                          [email protected]

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                          #13

                          Do you have a list of communities by topic or do you have an encyclopedic brain? Or just know what to search? I'm always impressed seeing you post in such a variety of places

                          Regardless, thank you!

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                          • M [email protected]

                            looks like its blocked on piefed 😞 but thanks!

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                            I think they may have misspelled it. Try [email protected]

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                            • T [email protected]

                              This reads like someone broken by capitalism. I'm sorry, buddy.

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                              I live in the USA, so I guess that checks out.

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                                [email protected]

                                E: typo

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                                I started that one!

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                                  It's a bit of a chicken and the egg issue - the tools are there, but the business model of hosting a website is not sustainable for small or niche communities (especially with AI scraping causing strain and horrible ad rates), so not many people are motivated to create them.

                                  At the same time, unless someone creates and maintains the sites, communities can't form and spread through word of mouth. If you can get a group of like minded folks willing to bear the upfront costs, give it a go, and people will come. But I doubt such sites will spring up on their own anymore in the 2020s.

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                                  grrgyle@slrpnk.netG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by [email protected]
                                  #17

                                  I mean your complaints are valid, but even if you're using a VPS, it shouldn't cost you not than $5-10/mo. With self-hosting probably even less.

                                  We're not talking like a lemmy or masto instance here.

                                  I have several personal websites on the small web, and people do visit. It's actually lovely.

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                                  • grrgyle@slrpnk.netG [email protected]

                                    I mean your complaints are valid, but even if you're using a VPS, it shouldn't cost you not than $5-10/mo. With self-hosting probably even less.

                                    We're not talking like a lemmy or masto instance here.

                                    I have several personal websites on the small web, and people do visit. It's actually lovely.

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                                    I self-host my own game servers for my friends and communities, so I know it's definitely possible to run stuff on a budget. I'm just thinking a forum or blog/message board site, even for niche subjects, will get scraped to death and may outpace your initial resources allocated, so the only way to sustain that is having a benevolent owner.

                                    Then again, I could be thinking way larger scale than what OP is thinking.

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