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I Recreated Shazam's Algorithm from Scratch because no one is hiring jnr devs

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  • otters_raft@lemmy.caO [email protected]
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    Contributing to big project can earn you more recognition than doing little project from scratch.
    You know JS ? Contribute to some libs.
    Found a bug in chrome ? Report the bug, learn a bit of C++, and submit a patch to fix it.

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      If you're reading this and you're learning programming, don't bother.

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      I'd say code skills are useful for lots of situations, not only as job: it helps general problem-solving, exercises the brain, good knowledge to own. Actually, coding for hobby feels way better than working as dev (I have a 10+yr DevOps carreer, I'm thinking of going back as a hobby and seeking smth else IT-related)

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        The job market is very hard right now. It feels like 2009 all over again. It took until 2014 to recover in my local area.

        And there is a LOT of new devs getting pushed out. Crazy.

        nice project!

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        Doesn't seem that bad to me, but I'm not a junior, or in the US.

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          I honestly don't think that doing these cool things improves your odds of getting hired. Junior Devs don't really touch these parts of a platform, let alone lead development on them from scratch.

          A valuable engineer, to me, is someone who writes clean, maintainable code and follows common patterns. That's also something which has to be learned by trial and error to actually see the value of.

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            I honestly don't think that doing these cool things improves your odds of getting hired. Junior Devs don't really touch these parts of a platform, let alone lead development on them from scratch.

            A valuable engineer, to me, is someone who writes clean, maintainable code and follows common patterns. That's also something which has to be learned by trial and error to actually see the value of.

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            And how would you demonstrate clean code and check for maintainability or patterns? How can you gauge the value of their trial and error?

            Look at their code, look at their work. It is a point of reference for potential and actual scenarios.

            This would absolutely increase their odds.

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              And how would you demonstrate clean code and check for maintainability or patterns? How can you gauge the value of their trial and error?

              Look at their code, look at their work. It is a point of reference for potential and actual scenarios.

              This would absolutely increase their odds.

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              Sure, look at their personal projects. I'm just saying the maintainability and quality of the code and speed of iteration is more of the point than how impressive the math is behind an ML algorithm. I've just seen a lot of ML engineers/data scientists who really suck at writing maintainable code

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                I'd say code skills are useful for lots of situations, not only as job: it helps general problem-solving, exercises the brain, good knowledge to own. Actually, coding for hobby feels way better than working as dev (I have a 10+yr DevOps carreer, I'm thinking of going back as a hobby and seeking smth else IT-related)

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                I believe many challenges in life can be reduced to some common kind of problems, expanding the usefulness of problem solving skills in computing to other domains @[email protected]

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                  Contributing to big project can earn you more recognition than doing little project from scratch.
                  You know JS ? Contribute to some libs.
                  Found a bug in chrome ? Report the bug, learn a bit of C++, and submit a patch to fix it.

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                  Cyou count to 100? Learn quantum physics, compute the odds for each ball, and win the lottery. Easy peasy. I don't know why these kids can't thrive here in the future.

                  /s

                  In all seriousness, learning c++ or any language is good advice but it may only be easy or even possible if you have a certain background of concepts. We tend to overlook those, and remember achieving a certain skill without the full picture

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                    If you can. Sales Engineering is a good field for engineers that need work but are not expected to code like an outright developer.

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                    • hipstertenzero@dormi.zoneH [email protected]

                      Hi, nonprogrammer poking my head in from all. What happened in 2009?

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                      Tht crash of '08

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                      • shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lolS [email protected]

                        Oh don't worry you'll get to experience one firsthand in [ checks watch ] about 20 minutes.

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                        Ngl I’m a little bit looking forward to the next housing crash, because maybe then I can finally buy a fucking house for a not-too-insane price.

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                        • shortrounddev@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                          I honestly don't think that doing these cool things improves your odds of getting hired. Junior Devs don't really touch these parts of a platform, let alone lead development on them from scratch.

                          A valuable engineer, to me, is someone who writes clean, maintainable code and follows common patterns. That's also something which has to be learned by trial and error to actually see the value of.

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                          "Maintainable code and common patterns? But I prefer code-golfing my if-statements into one, long sequence of characters."
                          -coworker standing atop the Dunning-Kruger peak

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                            "Maintainable code and common patterns? But I prefer code-golfing my if-statements into one, long sequence of characters."
                            -coworker standing atop the Dunning-Kruger peak

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                            Pffft. I write everything as a one liner in notepad and just copy and paste into a compiler.

                            Note: Sarcasm. I'm not a dev, I just script shit for my own convenience at work. I'm the guy the idiots talk to first. After 12 years I'm pretty good at filtering out the bullshit and giving a concise ticket to escalate in the event I don't have permissions to fix something.

                            I have fixed code before, but its been very rare, and was most certainly a case of the actual dev not seeing the forest due to the trees. It just happened I had the cube next to him and he wanted any other set of eyes, lol. I just happened to have some education in various languages that I opted not to pursue further.

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                              Doesn't seem that bad to me, but I'm not a junior, or in the US.

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                              US has been in a rough spot on the tech side as all the big tech companies kicked off a layoff spree (assumed by many to chase profitable quarterly reports).

                              With Trump and Elon screwing with the federal government, even stable government jobs are now hurting.

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                              • anzo@programming.devA [email protected]

                                Cyou count to 100? Learn quantum physics, compute the odds for each ball, and win the lottery. Easy peasy. I don't know why these kids can't thrive here in the future.

                                /s

                                In all seriousness, learning c++ or any language is good advice but it may only be easy or even possible if you have a certain background of concepts. We tend to overlook those, and remember achieving a certain skill without the full picture

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                                I contributed a feature to the .NET JIT without knowing C++.
                                I really dont know C++, I have at most wrote 300 lines while following a tutorial 6 years ago.

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                                  Ngl I’m a little bit looking forward to the next housing crash, because maybe then I can finally buy a fucking house for a not-too-insane price.

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                                  I'm right there with you. I feel like everyone I know's a bunch of hermit crabs lining up to upgrade from soda cans and plastic bottles into real shells

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                                    If you can. Sales Engineering is a good field for engineers that need work but are not expected to code like an outright developer.

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                                    If you can get into it, and more importantly enjoy the role, also can be hilariously well compensated.

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                                    • shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lolS [email protected]

                                      A global recession.

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                                      More like a global depression that governments won't admit was a depression because the economy is completely shareholder centric with very little consideration for workers. New grads did the occupy Wallstreet protests because they spent multiple years unable to find a job. It was a nightmare that destroyed the lives of countless working class people

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                                        Doesn't seem that bad to me, but I'm not a junior, or in the US.

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                                        I applied to 600 jobs last year, had 30 interviews, and only had 1 job offer that was revoked after Emperor Elon took over. Things have been completely hellish for me.

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                                          I'd say code skills are useful for lots of situations, not only as job: it helps general problem-solving, exercises the brain, good knowledge to own. Actually, coding for hobby feels way better than working as dev (I have a 10+yr DevOps carreer, I'm thinking of going back as a hobby and seeking smth else IT-related)

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                                          Sure, just don't take out college loans for a useless degree. I have a BSc in Computer Science and it is basically completely useless right now. I can't even land a shitty help desk job that pays fast food wages right now

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