EU OS: A Fedora-based distro 'for the public sector'

[pupbiru@aussie.zone]

alternative POV: it’s entirely FOSS so there’s little control that can be exerted from its use. it’s also entirely free, so use is extracting value without providing anything in return. by its use, you’re taking resources to maintain, host, etc and providing nothing in return

similar reason to why i don’t use ecosia with an ad blocker: by blocking ads you’re using their resources without giving back and thus you’re taking resources away from the charity

[pupbiru@aussie.zone]

i’d say if it happens it should start with focusing on:

• government and workstation (this is important first to have control and independence over so that government isn’t beholden to the whims of foreign companies)
• then server (maybe - idk really if that’s worth it though; it’s a whole can of compatibility worms and adoption expense)
• then user desktop

though there is the argument that workstation and user desktop are close enough to each other that user desktop should be above server, but i’d imagine it’d be more of a “home user” than gamer situation. i could imagine some regulations around refurbishing old tech with this kind of OS too, and this would be more about low spec machines (that’d help workstations too)

[redsnt@feddit.dk]

Hey, could be worse, could be based on Ubuntu.
I haven't really used openSUSE since I tried it 20 years ago, only for a few virtual machine shenanigans like trying to install LXQt with wayfire (which didn't go so well).
I just looked into how easy it would be to install nvidia drivers on openSUSE and it's not as great as Fedora for comparison. I do like how openSUSE defaults to a lot of BTRFS subvolumes for almost each important root directory and comes preinstalled with snapper, that's very neat. And it's so nice to use YaST, what a treat. While Fedora does also have patterns, getting to use a graphical installer with YaST is so nice.
I'm glazing a lot for someone that doesn't daily run it, so maybe I should just switch one of these days haha. Maybe when my Nobara installation dies - I do like the defaults that comes with whereas openSUSE is a more blank template without preinstalled stuff.

[redsnt@feddit.dk]

I just looked into how easy it would be to install nvidia drivers on openSUSE and it's not as great as Fedora for comparison, that's one of the only 2 down sides I've found so far. The other downside is a personal preference one, for many it's an upside, and it would be an upside for anyone basing an entire distro on it, and that's how there's nothing fancy installed alongside openSUSE, it's not bloated. No starship prompt in the terminal, no proprietary codecs etc.
I like how openSUSE defaults to a lot of BTRFS subvolumes for almost each important root directory and comes preinstalled with snapper, that's very neat. And it's so nice to use YaST, what a treat. While Fedora does also have patterns, getting to use a graphical installer with YaST is so nice.
I'm glazing a lot for someone that doesn't daily run it, so maybe I should just switch one of these days, haha. Maybe when my Nobara installation dies.

[ecb@feddit.org]

Yeah I have used opensuse for the past couple years (still do!) but while there is plenty to like, if I were to do a reinstall I would likely move back to Fedora.

Then again, I basically never use YaST, which I suppose is one of the main song points.

[jomusic@lemmy.ml]

As much as I love what they're doing, tieing an OS to a specific region via name seems like the opposite of Open Source values..
Then again, I suppose it could just be forked into a more generalized version

[suoko@feddit.it]

I'd add:

Mageia (French)

Zorin OS (Ireland)

Ufficio Zero (Italy)

[utopiah@lemmy.ml]

Meanwhile https://www.europarl.europa.eu/petitions/en/petition/content/0729%252F2024/html/Linux%2Bstatt%2BWindows just closed with 2474 Supporters

[petsoi@discuss.tchncs.de]

But it's a good starting point. Better than inventing everything from the scratch.

[msage@programming.dev]

I'm not sure if this is satire, because if yes, well played, if not, Fuck That.

[digdilem@lemmy.ml]

Most distros, not all, are based in, or run by, American legal entities.

Redhat, Rocky, Alma, Debian, etc - all legally American. This is a problem if the US requires sanctions against another country. All of those cannot legally supply products to Russia now, but in the future who's to say what other countries the US will sanction? People are only now starting to realise that sanctions can be applied to software too, and many countries are entirely reliant upon US Software. (Seriously, do a quick audit - 90% of our tech company's stack is US originated)

Alternatives: Suse (German) Ubuntu (UK, but based on Debian, so likely subject to supply chain restrictions).

[pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz]

My daily driver is an nvidia laptop with opensuse, takes like one afternoon to get everything ready with barely any former Linux experience.

Just use zypper (or yast) to add the proprietary nvidia repository (or nouveau) and install your drivers. Install everything else you need through zypper (or yast or flatpak). Familiarise yourself with keybinds, set new keybinds (not needed of course but its nice to know keybinds - if you're using KDE already they'll probably be the same anyway). Select KDE's dark "breeze for OpenSUSE" theme (or some other theme, but breeze for opensuse just is so polished). Configure other preferences (night light from sundown to sunrise, set up Firefox sync (if you use that), connect to onedrive or whichever cloud you're using, ... . Done. No need to wait

[digdilem@lemmy.ml]

Mint and Ubuntu have Debian as an upstream, don't they?

Debian is a US legal entity, so if it was required to sanction countries, it feels that software built with it would likely be restricted.

[digdilem@lemmy.ml]

Why restrict it to EU and not Europe?

Or better still, somehow make it universal and not subject to the whims of one political nutbar.

[dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works]

I didn’t know red hat was working for the US government. Can you tell me in what way?

[blackbeard@feddit.it]

This is specifically for the public sector. The fact that it is open source make it adaptable to different scenarios.

[captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works]

Europe isn't a region, it's a brand.

[ferk@lemmy.ml]

This is true, but then why not base it off Guix (the GNU distro)? ..I'm sure Fedora is full of binary blobs and not-so-free software.

[anonomouswolf@lemm.ee]

Can't we just keep going with Ubuntu and fork it the moment the US wants to do anything funny

[anonomouswolf@lemm.ee]

Debian is open source though. So unless they make it closed source we can keep using it.

Making it closed source would probably kill it and a fork would take its place.