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Windows 11 is closing a loophole that let you skip making a Microsoft account

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    Funny how corporations think taking away consumers freedom and privacy is a good idea.

    Have fun losing customers.

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    Its a good idea for their shareholders, who don't think beyond the next quater. Pretty sure most of them don't have object permanence.

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      LibreOffice better step up their games and make their office suites better. Outside of very niche and specialized applications like CAD or video editor, the average Joe will just need a good office suite to do stuff.

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      • reygle@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

        Uh

        Who's ready to talk Linux

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        Unfortunately the "horror" that is windows persists also as much as the horror in Linux. Which is a bunch of fanbois crowing about their distro without any explanation at all. But why do they do this? Because that's how they got into it, and that's how the people that got them into it got into it.

        Which fucking distro should I use?
        - Well, really it's just preference.

        Then I choose arch.
        - Uh, wrong try again lol.

        Fair enough, Which fucking distro should I use?
        - Well, really it's whatever works for you.

        Okay, I didn't like the feel of that one.
        - Well, you were using the wrong desktop environment.

        😐😑😤😠... ...Which fucking desktop environment should I use?
        - Well, really it's just preference.

        🤬. 🤬🤬, 🤬. 🤬.
        - Look clearly you don't know what you're doing just use Ubuntu, or Kubuntu, or Lubuntu, or Xubuntu, or Fubuntu, or Poobuntu, or Schmubuntu. And with cinnamon obvi.

        Well how do I know? The site for each one uses the exact same bloviated claims. They're all feature rich, and lightweight, and extended support, etc. Do I have to install them all to find out?
        - Yes but that's impossible. So just use mine, it works.

        Until it doesn't. Then you need to hit up Linux self help forums, to get help from Linux bros, who are the most detestable group of unhelpful, impatient, and pretentious neckbeards imaginable. "Did you try searching first?" "Just use our discord!" "Just use [my fucking distro!]"

        😖🤯👺

        FML

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          LibreOffice better step up their games and make their office suites better. Outside of very niche and specialized applications like CAD or video editor, the average Joe will just need a good office suite to do stuff.

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          Most people just use the online office 365 thing.

          What issues did you have with LibreOffice? I didn't spot any problems when I used it

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            We no longer own our products. We just pay to use it until they decide you can no longer use their service. What happens if they mysteriously shut down your account without warning?

            That is what happened to a guy and he had to get court involved and then he found out his account was flagged for CP by their algorithm because he had a video of his 19 year old ex. False bans do happen. I couldn't find that story again sadly to share.

            Also, make sure you always have back up turned off or have one drive not installed on your phone. If you're a parent, be careful what photos you take of your children because if those get backed up to cloud, their AI will kill your account because it can't tell between CP and normal family photos.

            I actually want to own our products than make accounts to use.

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            • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

              Most people just use the online office 365 thing.

              What issues did you have with LibreOffice? I didn't spot any problems when I used it

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              oh LibreOffice works great for me in general. Only for some documents with macros that were created in MS Office, I have problems running them. Eg: I once received a MS Word document that has some preprogrammed drop down list - so you click to extend the list and choose your items. The document opens fine, but I couldnt get the drop down feature to work. For Excel, documents with lots of VBA codes, I need to go in and do some manual changes.

              In general, for 99% of the tasks, LibreOffice is fine. But it is that 1% which makes me still open up my Windows VM for MS Office.

              After their shenanigan with subscription only models, we still see MS Office being used a lot. It shows how strong MS grips on the Office area is.

              You are correct that 365 is used for most people. I used to use it too..For me, I prefer to be able to access stuff whenever I want. I live in an area with very shitty internet (both Wifi and 4G). Once, a client and I had to wait 5 minutes because Office Online takes too long to load up a spreadsheet. Offline for me is just a peace of mind.

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                Unfortunately the "horror" that is windows persists also as much as the horror in Linux. Which is a bunch of fanbois crowing about their distro without any explanation at all. But why do they do this? Because that's how they got into it, and that's how the people that got them into it got into it.

                Which fucking distro should I use?
                - Well, really it's just preference.

                Then I choose arch.
                - Uh, wrong try again lol.

                Fair enough, Which fucking distro should I use?
                - Well, really it's whatever works for you.

                Okay, I didn't like the feel of that one.
                - Well, you were using the wrong desktop environment.

                😐😑😤😠... ...Which fucking desktop environment should I use?
                - Well, really it's just preference.

                🤬. 🤬🤬, 🤬. 🤬.
                - Look clearly you don't know what you're doing just use Ubuntu, or Kubuntu, or Lubuntu, or Xubuntu, or Fubuntu, or Poobuntu, or Schmubuntu. And with cinnamon obvi.

                Well how do I know? The site for each one uses the exact same bloviated claims. They're all feature rich, and lightweight, and extended support, etc. Do I have to install them all to find out?
                - Yes but that's impossible. So just use mine, it works.

                Until it doesn't. Then you need to hit up Linux self help forums, to get help from Linux bros, who are the most detestable group of unhelpful, impatient, and pretentious neckbeards imaginable. "Did you try searching first?" "Just use our discord!" "Just use [my fucking distro!]"

                😖🤯👺

                FML

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                I typed 6 words. Are you alright

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                  Hi another recent Linux adopter jumping in on a "fuck windows" thread.

                  Seriously, it's not hard to shift. If you're use to macOS, get Elementary. If you're used to Windows, try Mint. Your machine will probably be fine for either. Setup/testing it out is trivial.

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                    Hi another recent Linux adopter jumping in on a "fuck windows" thread.

                    Seriously, it's not hard to shift. If you're use to macOS, get Elementary. If you're used to Windows, try Mint. Your machine will probably be fine for either. Setup/testing it out is trivial.

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                    I tell people to make a live usb to test it first.

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                    • ripcord@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                      Now I want a Chinstrap and a Southern Rockhopper Linux.

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                      GalapagOS

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                        lol there's already a fix: run start ms-cxh:localonly from a CMD line in the installer

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                          Oh wow I looked up AGi32 and that thing seems like a mess. I feel sorry for you.

                          I get that it might be hard to migrate some really nastily written software, but... In the year of our lord 2025, it should not be acceptable for any sort of simulation software that requires an expensive paid license, to be 32-bit only.

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                          Agreed but the alternatives are not much better for me. I also use Dialux Evo which is much, much better at rendering but it's extremely Euro centric and you can't easily make a template for Australian standards. There's Relux which I tried using but I didn't want to pay for yet another license just to practice and get better at using it.

                          Unfortunately, for us Australian lighting designers, there's not a lot of options. It's a gag in the industry where if you hear someone yelling "FUCK!!" out of nowhere, AGI has crashed.

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                          • ? Guest

                            Funny how corporations think taking away consumers freedom and privacy is a good idea.

                            Have fun losing customers.

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                            "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power."

                            -Benito Mussolini

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                            • reygle@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                              I typed 6 words. Are you alright

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                              Lol, thought I was replying to a different comment, my bad 😆

                              Please accept my apologies 🙏

                              I'm not unhinged, more or less

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                                Lol, thought I was replying to a different comment, my bad 😆

                                Please accept my apologies 🙏

                                I'm not unhinged, more or less

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                                Been there. Accepted

                                To answer your questions though, I suggest the non-Cosmic version of Pop!OS. (and switch to wayland if it's not the default yet- not sure, I've had this install for YEARS) It's a good blend of "just works" and "up to date enough" to run anything, and I recommend steering well clear of Arch. I've been using Linux for a decade and I've always found a way to whoopsie it into a broken state. That's a "me problem" yes, but if I can fudge it up that easily and I have experience using it, I think it's unsuitable to recommend to anyone.

                                Most people live in a web browser- does it really matter if the desktop environment isn't riced enough or isn't windows-ey enough?
                                That said, it takes actual hackery to make any version of Windows usable these days, so I'll forgive a distro not being "absolutely elite" for someone's preferences. Let's not compare Linux forums to Windows forums, where no-one has ever, I repeat ever received ANY useful advice besides reinstalling their Windows, am I right?

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                                  We no longer own our products. We just pay to use it until they decide you can no longer use their service. What happens if they mysteriously shut down your account without warning?

                                  That is what happened to a guy and he had to get court involved and then he found out his account was flagged for CP by their algorithm because he had a video of his 19 year old ex. False bans do happen. I couldn't find that story again sadly to share.

                                  Also, make sure you always have back up turned off or have one drive not installed on your phone. If you're a parent, be careful what photos you take of your children because if those get backed up to cloud, their AI will kill your account because it can't tell between CP and normal family photos.

                                  I actually want to own our products than make accounts to use.

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                                  Nothing's stopping you from nuking your Windows install and installing some Linux distro though, at least on PC.

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                                    Never said it was the fault of the creators, I love the idea of Linux and wish it was the mainstream desktop OS, then none of these issues would really exist. I only have issue with people pretending it's so simple to change to it from Windows, which is just almost never true.

                                    I have an Nvidia card because it was the best option for me at the time I bought it, Valve's Proton hadn't matured enough for Linux to even be considered for gaming at that time (other Linux quirks aside). As much as I support FOSS, I love playing a variety of games with friends and that just wasn't going to be feasible with Linux 5-6 years ago. I wasn't going to dual-boot when I would end up spending most of my time in Windows anyway and the rest of my time troubleshooting Linux.

                                    Now AMD has released a good card, Proton is really good and Linux has progressed further to where I can seriously consider it. With Windows 10 support ending, I am very likely to jump ship.

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                                    Sorry, I was not trying to put words in your mouth. I just usually hear, "Linux not good for me because it doesn't support my setup well enough" when it should be "Linux not good for me because the manufacturers of my hardware don't support Linux well enough". Trying to put blame where it belongs in hopes of raising awareness to both users and manufacturers.

                                    I also mistakenly thought you mentioned a newer Nvidia card when you are considering AMD. 🤦‍♂️ Good luck in your computing future!

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                                    • puzzlehead@reddthat.comP [email protected]

                                      We no longer own our products. We just pay to use it until they decide you can no longer use their service. What happens if they mysteriously shut down your account without warning?

                                      That is what happened to a guy and he had to get court involved and then he found out his account was flagged for CP by their algorithm because he had a video of his 19 year old ex. False bans do happen. I couldn't find that story again sadly to share.

                                      Also, make sure you always have back up turned off or have one drive not installed on your phone. If you're a parent, be careful what photos you take of your children because if those get backed up to cloud, their AI will kill your account because it can't tell between CP and normal family photos.

                                      I actually want to own our products than make accounts to use.

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                                      This happens on the Google side of the fence as well - this article immediately came to mind.

                                      I'm glad I started self hosting so I still have a "cloud" convenience while still owning all my data and being the sole person responsible for it.

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                                      • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

                                        I tell people to make a live usb to test it first.

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                                        Can recommend ventoy.
                                        Then simply put the iso's from the main distributions with different DE's on the stick

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                                        • puzzlehead@reddthat.comP [email protected]

                                          We no longer own our products. We just pay to use it until they decide you can no longer use their service. What happens if they mysteriously shut down your account without warning?

                                          That is what happened to a guy and he had to get court involved and then he found out his account was flagged for CP by their algorithm because he had a video of his 19 year old ex. False bans do happen. I couldn't find that story again sadly to share.

                                          Also, make sure you always have back up turned off or have one drive not installed on your phone. If you're a parent, be careful what photos you take of your children because if those get backed up to cloud, their AI will kill your account because it can't tell between CP and normal family photos.

                                          I actually want to own our products than make accounts to use.

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                                          We no longer own our products.

                                          This is a popular saying but its not as clear cut. You have choice. You can own the products you use or buy. So why don't you?

                                          Yes, the software we used yesterday is no longer a one time purchase today. However, you still own the software you bought yesterday and you have choice to buy new software which you will own or you can subscribe to a service providing the updated version of the new software. Example:

                                          I can still use a purchased copy of Adobe Lightoom from 2010.
                                          I can buy a new license for Affinity Photo today and use it forever.
                                          I can pay to use Lightroom as a service.

                                          Imo, the only price you pay is the trek you take into unfamiliarity brought on by using new software.

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