The irony
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Yes please. I tried participating in some StackExchange communities many years ago, but they felt so hostile to new contributors. Like I asked an immigration-related question about my personal situation, and multiple people edited my question to change the grammar and take out the thanks and smiley at the end
Oh no, we can't have a bit of humanity in there... Multiple similar experiences left such a bitter taste, that I ended up deleting most of my sub-profiles. I found Reddit-style communities much more helpful. Even wikis are typically nowhere near this hostile.SE seems too heavily focusing on helping a "generic public" rather than the actual people asking the questions. (Or even answering them, with all the reputation restrictions on accounts.) I'm sure I'm not the only contributor they pushed away
I’m sure I’m not the only contributor they pushed away
Yeah. I found myself not adding a potentially useful comment, more than once, due to reputation restrictions on a SE community despite me having enough rep in the ones I regularly use.
And I am one of those that aligns well with the Question & Answer style format of their site.
So, I just leave, knowing that - some answer is incomplete - or - some question is not worded well enough to attract the correct answerer. I prefer suggesting fixes to the question rather than changing it myself, which would otherwise be assuming that I have understood correctly. -
CF: We defended your website from 69,420 bots today!
The 65,000 users:
️L️its funny. when its anubis, the common opinion is rightly fuck ai, but when its cloudflare, then it is somehow fuck the website.
what a weird world we live in.
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Good riddance. Whenever I search for a programming question I'd always hope for a) an official documentation page or, failing that, b) a page on a dedicated forum for the tool that I was using that covered the problem. I'd only ever click on SO links if I had no other choice.
And, of course, I'd never search for a problem on SO itself.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I hate that so many projects are moving from public support forums to fucking Discord channels. God forbid a tech project be expected to maintain a public indexable forum and website. You can't search it unless you join the channel, it's not well organized at all, and the invite link probably expired 3 months ago. Fuck you if you didn't join while it still worked I guess.
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LOL wow, I never even heard of INTERCAL. Does it have IF THEN MAYBE?
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Anybody remember what it was like 16+ years ago when "most questions" hadn't already been asked yet?
PS: lol https://web.archive.org/web/20090330211513/http://stackoverflow.com/
I spent a lot of time there the first couple of years, mostly answering questions. I was in the top 20 or so of users for a while - I remember when Jon Skeet was right below me in the rankings and I thought "huh, I'll show this guy". I did not in fact show that guy. I'm still in the top .1% but I haven't done anything there in almost a decade.
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I think the same people who run stackoverflow must run a ton of subs on reddit.
"Your post was removed because it uses "the" too much and doesn't contain enough w's and because the moon is in Pisces and it's Saturday. If you think this was done in error please message the moderators."
They're the same people posting articles saying how bad AI is while everybody else has fun using it
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I spent a lot of time there the first couple of years, mostly answering questions. I was in the top 20 or so of users for a while - I remember when Jon Skeet was right below me in the rankings and I thought "huh, I'll show this guy". I did not in fact show that guy. I'm still in the top .1% but I haven't done anything there in almost a decade.
As a read-only SO user - thank you for your answers!
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I think the same people who run stackoverflow must run a ton of subs on reddit.
"Your post was removed because it uses "the" too much and doesn't contain enough w's and because the moon is in Pisces and it's Saturday. If you think this was done in error please message the moderators."
moderator shoots anyone as soon as they knock on their front door through a custom slot
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its funny. when its anubis, the common opinion is rightly fuck ai, but when its cloudflare, then it is somehow fuck the website.
what a weird world we live in.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Anubis does its thing, shows me cute art, then leaves without elaborating. It's a mostly non-intrusive, individual/community effort to protect people against big tech and abusive scrapers. I usually see it in open source community websites that were getting hammered by LLM scrapers.
Cloudflare's is a corporate solution from the company that man-in-the-middles half the internet and makes me click shit every fucking time. I see it whenever I make the mistake of following a stackoverflow link.
You're goddamn right my reaction is accordingly different.
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I am a better programmer than God, peace be upon Him. This implementation of
kneesis Exhibit 1.ok but real talk, knees are genuinely one of the most marvellous pieces of biomechanical engineering. They can withstand decades of constant movement, can allow extension (with a lot of force) even when bent 180°, can withstand - and move - hundreds of kg per knee (with enough practice) periodically also for decades, and can comfortably remain with your entire body weight resting on them at any angle from 0 to 180° for any length of time. It's amazing that everyone doesn't have constant knee pain or have their knees simply fail altogether.
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IMO, this would be more ironic if the post was closed automatically by a bot. But that's not the vibe I'm getting from this.
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Eh, I hate its culture, but I regularly find useful excel or regex answers on StackExchange.
The LaTeX SE is also very useful. The official documentation of LaTeX and especially of third party packages, is often hard to read and it's hard to find what you're looking for. You can end up on the documentation on Overleaf,but they don't go I to depth too much.
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I think the same people who run stackoverflow must run a ton of subs on reddit.
"Your post was removed because it uses "the" too much and doesn't contain enough w's and because the moon is in Pisces and it's Saturday. If you think this was done in error please message the moderators."
messages moderator about it, banned from subreddit for no reason given. Or at least that is how i imagine how it would go
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INTERCAL's PLEASE Politesse Checking
That's hilarious. I do hope it gets evaluated at run time. That way you could have a program that works most of the time but if some rare circumstance caused it to execute commands in a sequence where the correct level of politeness was not maintained it would get the hump and crash
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ok but real talk, knees are genuinely one of the most marvellous pieces of biomechanical engineering. They can withstand decades of constant movement, can allow extension (with a lot of force) even when bent 180°, can withstand - and move - hundreds of kg per knee (with enough practice) periodically also for decades, and can comfortably remain with your entire body weight resting on them at any angle from 0 to 180° for any length of time. It's amazing that everyone doesn't have constant knee pain or have their knees simply fail altogether.
It's just that sometimes they don't respond to input.
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He still doesn't understand how we got the rock to think
You have to etch them with Eldritch potions on the mystical and long-lost island of Ti-wo-ann.
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Now we're still pasting code from stack overflow we don't understand, we're just getting it from an LLM
wrote on last edited by [email protected]At least now I don't have to deal with the rudeners.
I do like the fact that when I ask it a question it actually gives me the answer, and doesn't tell me to refactor my entire code because apparently I'm a bad person.
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multiple people edited my question to change the grammar and take out the thanks and smiley at the end
Well, the Welcome Tour tells you that SO is about “just questions and answers”. This facilitates finding a question that’s written as concise as possible, checking its answer, and leaving. SO is deliberately not like a forum.
SE seems too heavily focusing on helping a “generic public” rather than the actual people asking the questions.
This is just another consequence of not being a forum. Of course SO wants questions to be helpful to as many people as possible. I don’t see how that is a bad thing.
If you want a laxer approach to handling quality, consider if you’ve ever found useful information on yahoo answers.
The big problem is that half the time the answer that you get is that you shouldn't be in the situation you're in so the question doesn't apply.
Well yeah, but here's the thing, if I ask the question it's because I am in the situation I'm in, and therefore need assistance. So telling me that the situation I'm in is not optimal is literally the least helpful thing one could do.
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In my time we didn't paste LLM-generated code we barely understand and hoped it compiled, let alone work. We pasted code from stack overflow we barely understood and hoped it compiled and let alone work, as god intended.
You're young. Back in my day, we bought a book called "Advanced Algorithms for C vol. 3", and we manually typed the code from it if it didn't come with a CD.
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At least now I don't have to deal with the rudeners.
I do like the fact that when I ask it a question it actually gives me the answer, and doesn't tell me to refactor my entire code because apparently I'm a bad person.
Weirdly enough, when someone asked an LLM for an OpenGL grievance for me, first it just recommended to use GLFW or SDL for the task, both of which I didn't want to use (GLFW controller handling🤮), after that they got an answer that just bugged out on most WM.
