No but seriously. Why the gaps?
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I am so jealous. My old work had stalls with gaps. The whole room was a bit tight, so you couldn't just back up far enough to see the feet of the person in the stall. The locks were installed in such a way that if you pulled the door a little, it would open. (So a discreet soft pull on the door was not a good way of determining occupancy.)
The only way to know was to look in the gap.
I was about to go in a stall when I made eye contact with the current occupant of said stall. She just yelled out "YOU CREEPIN?"
I am of course not socially awkward at all and was completely normal when I replied back "no... Sorry."
Actual privacy in a multi-stall bathroom would be so nice.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Why didn't you try knocking? Knock twice 2 times, with a few seconds pause in between, if no response, then you can try the door. Going straight to looking into the gap is ... creepy imo.
Edit: this was in reply to "The only way to know was to look in the gap.". And no it wasn't. Knock for fucks sake, have some manners.
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This is a typical public restroom
Ah.... so yes. And wow.
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The reality is that every American has experienced this for their entire lives at this point. The actual popular opinion is "I don't actually care because every public bathroom I have been in since the 40s is like this."
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The stalls at my work have zero gaps whatsoever and the door/walls (which are made of wood) go almost to the floor. There's fairly high quality locking handles that indicate whether or not it's occupied. It's amazing and I don't know of any other public restroom in my area like it.
It always baffles me that this is considered a luxury in the USA while in Germany (and I assume most of Europe) this is the absolute standard. Stalls where the door doesn't lock properly or where the indicator on the outside is faded so that you can't reliably determine if it's occupied are already considered signs of bad maintenance. Gaps that you can look through without pressing your face right against them would be a "nope, I'll never visit this place again" level scandal.
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So you don't suffocate in there.
As someone from Europe I can guarantee you that 5-10cm (2-4") at the bottom and 30cm (12") at the top with almost no gap between the door and wall are by far enough to not suffocate. Maybe put a vent in the ceiling for good measure.
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The stalls at my work have zero gaps whatsoever and the door/walls (which are made of wood) go almost to the floor. There's fairly high quality locking handles that indicate whether or not it's occupied. It's amazing and I don't know of any other public restroom in my area like it.
Really? That's what I'd expect even in a run-down public toilet in a train station over here in Austria.
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I don't know about you but the vast majority of bathroom stalls I see do not use wood. They are almost all metal, and keeping metal from rubbing on metal in a high humidity environment seems like a cost saving measure to me
Toilets shouldn't be high humidity environments (that's what ventilation is there for) and gap-less doors don't need to rub at all.
That's what this European high tech that seems to be virtually unknown in the US is for: door rebates.
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I think they just suck at carpentry, amongst other things. Doors are haaaard.
Yeah, they don't know how to make door rebates. They don't even have that in their actual house doors leading to the road. And we over here even have them on toilet doors.
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Even worse are the urinals without dividers.
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To be fair, using the decimal system for everything was the No1 mistake of the french revolution. A duodecimal system would have been so much nicer.
It's so hard to even conceptualize if it would be better. A few common divisions would be, but is it easier than a decimal system? Would switching to one ever not feel weird if you previously learnt the decimal system?
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Ah.... so yes. And wow.
How much door fitting tolerance do you want?
All of it
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Even worse are the urinals without dividers.
I feel like you don't need that much intimacy when pissing but maybe that's just me.
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So you don't suffocate in there.
they explains why everyone in Europe is dead by suffocating in public toilets.
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For all the puritanical shame Americans have of their sexual organs, we sure are lax when it comes to giving a little privacy when taking a shit and sometimes even just pissing in a trough.
ripping basic privacy trumps puritanical values.
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they explains why everyone in Europe is dead by suffocating in public toilets.
I am, of course, not joking in any way.
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As someone from Europe I can guarantee you that 5-10cm (2-4") at the bottom and 30cm (12") at the top with almost no gap between the door and wall are by far enough to not suffocate. Maybe put a vent in the ceiling for good measure.
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Man, reminds me of the old WWII barracks, open shitters.
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Why didn't you try knocking? Knock twice 2 times, with a few seconds pause in between, if no response, then you can try the door. Going straight to looking into the gap is ... creepy imo.
Edit: this was in reply to "The only way to know was to look in the gap.". And no it wasn't. Knock for fucks sake, have some manners.
The locks were installed in such a way that if you pulled the door a little, it would open. (So a discreet soft pull on the door was not a good way of determining occupancy.)
Maybe because of that?
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The locks were installed in such a way that if you pulled the door a little, it would open. (So a discreet soft pull on the door was not a good way of determining occupancy.)
Maybe because of that?
Starting with pulling on the door is already impolite imo. If there is no visual cue as to the occupancy of the room, then the first thing one should do is knock. If the light is off or the occupancy signal says it's free, then sure, try the handle. Otherwise knock first, give the person who is shitting there a chance to reply with "occupied" or to knock back. But looking through gaps or trying if the door opens with the handle and then going "oops sorry", please no.
Same goes up for offices, meeting spaces, bedrooms etc, when the door is closed and it could be occupied, always knock before attempting to enter. Less bad when someone does it, but still, one could just knock.
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I feel like you don't need that much intimacy when pissing but maybe that's just me.
I feel like you don't need that much intimacy when pissing but maybe that's just me.
Who can say?
Me and Slim and Frank were just discussing that over a group trough piss, at the stadium, yesterday.
We agreed that it is pretty intimate.
Carl seemed uncomfortable that we were talking so loudly about it, but those hand dryers are pretty loud, so we had to speak up to be heard.
::: spoiler Admission and further gross exaggeration
(And no, this didn't happen, of course.Because, at the stadium, most folks stand just inside the bathroom entrance and just piss generally inward from the edge of the floor stickiness zone.
Most people find it difficult to even hit the side of the troughs from outside the sticky floor zone.)
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