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  3. Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts

Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts

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  • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

    Haven't had an FP6 in my hands yet, but I've been using FP since the Fairphone 2, am currently using the FP4 and besides the ethics in sourcing their materials and manufacturing (which they genuinely attempt to provide, and while there is no ethical consumption in capitalism, there are still degrees of fucked-upness.), I do enjoy the repairability, longevity and long-term support. They are also decently supported by de-googled-android and even pure Linux phone operating systems, if you want to experiment there, and come without a lot of bloat that nowadays is ubiquitous with most smartphones.

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    Do you have a bit of info on these Linux mobile OSs? The FP5 didn't convince me as a main phone when I needed a new one last year, but if it can take a real Linux distro it could be a cool toy.

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      No earphone jack again. That's a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It's just a small inconvenience

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      For the amount of space a earphone jack takes it really doesn't make sense for them to include it, when you can just use a cheap adaptor cable

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        Fairphone has really gone off the deep end. 6 phone models in what? less than 12 years? That's what they call dedication to sustainability? Really?
        They used to say the most sustainable phone is your old phone, assuming you can continue to use it. Yet - my Fairphone 1, still in good working order hardware-wise, I had to "scrap" because no more SW updates. When my FP2 hardware (charging port) eventually failed, they no longer sold the relevant spare parts.

        What good are exchangeable parts, if they are removed from the shop around the time that a well-treated phone might need them?

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        • ofcoursenot@fedia.ioO [email protected]

          Do you have a bit of info on these Linux mobile OSs? The FP5 didn't convince me as a main phone when I needed a new one last year, but if it can take a real Linux distro it could be a cool toy.

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          Sure - check out this list from the community forums:

          https://forum.fairphone.com/t/operating-systems-for-fairphones/11425#heading--fp5

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            main camera, AI-powered low-light magic

            Can I turn it off? Can I? I just want my photos, the real ones, however bad they are. I don’t want them to be half generated.

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            Yeah, it's most likely just doing some "AI" (ML) denoising. Nothing to do with GenAI

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              The reason for not using a headphone jack is making it simpler for the manufacturer, one less connector to handle which also limits how slim a phone can be.

              I'm not saying this is good for the consumer, but there are reasons for integrating the functionality into the USB-C port.

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              For $700 I'm not interested in compromising my own convenience for theirs.

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                For $700 I'm not interested in compromising my own convenience for theirs.

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                Fair, though the fact doesn't exist in a vacuum.

                If you want easily replaceable parts and a system that can unlock the bootloader for example, your argument can be made for 99% of phones on the market. The more requirements you add, the smaller the scope gets until there are no devices left to choose from.

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                  I'd love one and have checked back each year after their first model, but they still don't sell to Australia - and I'm not going to buy something I can't get direct parts and services for, and would need to go through third parties for.

                  If their model is a successful business I honestly thought they would have expanded beyond shipping/supporting only Europe by now, its been a decade since their first model. Maybe they're still not a very big player / modest success?

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                    No earphone jack again. That's a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It's just a small inconvenience

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                    I was just hoping a phone like fairphone would give me the option to buy a small module or something to let me do it.

                    Yes, yes there's adapters .... yes, yes, you don't need to use it ... I understand. I just want it.

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                      There's a deGoogled version too!!

                      I would prefer GrapheneOS (If I can live with the irony of getting a Pixel phone just to deGoogle it...). Sandboxing there is way better. But you lose the Repairability.. Gotta check and compare the new EU metrics too.

                      They are just two different devices.

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                        You have these usb-c to mini jack adapters. They are like 5 to 10eu. They are small enough to keep them attached to your jack headphone. It works perfectly for me.

                        I think it is better to view the usb-c plug as 'one protocol to rule them all'. If you do so, it makes quite some sense.

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                        Every adapter I had was broken after a year or less. I imagine if you keep them attached to your phone, they'll break even faster. Do these adapters exist with a 90° angle which might help preventing broken cables?

                        Not really in the spirit of reducing waste.

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                          3.5mm Jack or - sadly - GTFO

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                            No earphone jack again. That's a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It's just a small inconvenience

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                            "Modularity" but still no headphone jack, couldn't I just have a backplate with a big bump on it to accommodate a 3.5mm jack?

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                              Did some digging, but it doesn't appear the band compatibility with US carriers is improved at all. Am I wrong here?

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                                Clove Technology resells to outside the EU

                                But also consider potential carrier compatibility issues with importing

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                                Thanks for the tip!

                                I had a look at the bands and it is indeed compatible in Canada! 🎉

                                Source: GSMArena + Fido support

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                                  Just to be clear, unless you're shooting RAW you never have your "real" photos. Every phone/camera performs massive amounts of post processing, including using ml models.

                                  AI is only a buzzword for something that has been the norm for a while.

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                                  I want my photos to be grainy, with natural lens distortion, instead of current trend of pictures being shouty to look good on social media

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                                    I know I know, but it was really convenient to keep a spare battery and do a quick swap on the fp4.

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                                    That's a pretty fair point, though I assume a spare powerbank would solve the problem nearly as well (albeit slower and with a cable).

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                                    • anzo@programming.devA [email protected]

                                      There's a deGoogled version too!!

                                      I would prefer GrapheneOS (If I can live with the irony of getting a Pixel phone just to deGoogle it...). Sandboxing there is way better. But you lose the Repairability.. Gotta check and compare the new EU metrics too.

                                      They are just two different devices.

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                                      Degoogled version is €50 more, for whatever reason

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                                        This looks pretty good. The main issue with Fairphone for me is the price. FP 5 is still about 2x as expensive as Pixel 8. I got my Pixel 8a on promotion for ~250 euros. FP 5 still costs over 500. I never paid more than 300 euros for a phone and I'm not planning to.

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                                        • anzo@programming.devA [email protected]

                                          There's a deGoogled version too!!

                                          I would prefer GrapheneOS (If I can live with the irony of getting a Pixel phone just to deGoogle it...). Sandboxing there is way better. But you lose the Repairability.. Gotta check and compare the new EU metrics too.

                                          They are just two different devices.

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                                          I not only want a degoogled version but also a secure one. Sadly developing a secure android is rather hard. The Graphene team does it pretty well. Others try it too, but sadly they are not close.

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