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  • inb4_foundthevegan@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

    The copaganda show .... as chaotic good?

    No. Heck no.

    The Good Place is a much better fit.

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    Did you even see the last 2 seasons? They actually really confronted those issues and outright said that they weren't really the good guys, the show tackled multiple times that the system is completely broken. I get if it was Law and Order being mad, but man you're mad at the only cop show I've ever seen acknowledging and trying to tackle these issues. I mean, that's literally why they made the captain gay and black, and that's just one example.

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      It's chaotic neutral until you hit the evil timeline

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      Danny Pudi ftw 👍

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        Chaotic Evil. Always Sunny is Seinfeld without trying to make the characters likeable, which as a huge Seinfeld fan, I felt was the biggest detriment to the show, and probably done so Jerry Seinfeld felt better acting in it as himself. What with being a groomer and all.

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        The characters aren't likeable?

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          The last 2 is me for sure

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            The characters aren't likeable?

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            Relatable?

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              Did you even see the last 2 seasons? They actually really confronted those issues and outright said that they weren't really the good guys, the show tackled multiple times that the system is completely broken. I get if it was Law and Order being mad, but man you're mad at the only cop show I've ever seen acknowledging and trying to tackle these issues. I mean, that's literally why they made the captain gay and black, and that's just one example.

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              You just listed the exact reasons the show is copaganda.

              American Police are not lovable goofballs full of historically oppressed minorities realizing they are the bad guys. They are not "tackling issues", they are lampshading and white washing them. Take the episode where Peralta meets the old detective from the book he loves on and is like

              "Oh wow, old school police were racist... glad they aren't anymore!"

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                Kimmy Schmidt made me actually laugh out loud the first time I watched it. It's worth a watch imo

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                The suny old people jokes. When Titus did the voice acting gig. It’s a weird manic show but it was amazing

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                  Relatable?

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                  Yes, sorry, used the wrong word, was doing accounting while writing. I meant that an average person looks at the Sunny characters and doesn't think they want to be them, where as I'd argue only George (and maybe Kramer) were that in Seinfeld.

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                    Relatable?

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                    I don't know I feel like I can kind of relate to kramer minus the N word thing but that was outside the show and after it I think

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                      The office is in no way neutral, it’s definitely in the evil scale. You’re meant to hate all the characters.

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                        I wonder where Schitts Creek would fall

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                        • inb4_foundthevegan@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                          You just listed the exact reasons the show is copaganda.

                          American Police are not lovable goofballs full of historically oppressed minorities realizing they are the bad guys. They are not "tackling issues", they are lampshading and white washing them. Take the episode where Peralta meets the old detective from the book he loves on and is like

                          "Oh wow, old school police were racist... glad they aren't anymore!"

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                          Oh wow, old school police were racists… glad they aren’t anymore!”

                          Whoosh

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                          • inb4_foundthevegan@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                            You just listed the exact reasons the show is copaganda.

                            American Police are not lovable goofballs full of historically oppressed minorities realizing they are the bad guys. They are not "tackling issues", they are lampshading and white washing them. Take the episode where Peralta meets the old detective from the book he loves on and is like

                            "Oh wow, old school police were racist... glad they aren't anymore!"

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                            Somehow I feel like there’s probably sarcasm on that sentence that doesn’t translate from spoken words to text.

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                              Somehow I feel like there’s probably sarcasm on that sentence that doesn’t translate from spoken words to text.

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                              I didn't think it was possible to take that sentence literally, especially knowing it is from a comedy show about the police.

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                                I am Neutral Good.

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                                  Chaotic Evil. Always Sunny is Seinfeld without trying to make the characters likeable, which as a huge Seinfeld fan, I felt was the biggest detriment to the show, and probably done so Jerry Seinfeld felt better acting in it as himself. What with being a groomer and all.

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                                  The characters on Seinfeld were NOT intended to be likable.

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                                    Yes, sorry, used the wrong word, was doing accounting while writing. I meant that an average person looks at the Sunny characters and doesn't think they want to be them, where as I'd argue only George (and maybe Kramer) were that in Seinfeld.

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                                    George I can kind of understand despite him having a semi decent life but kramer seemed to be a pretty happy guy

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                                      Sienfeld?

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                                      I feel like there's gotta be a separate chart entirely for the late-'80s/mid-'90s sitcoms. Friends, Frasier, Seinfeld, Roseanne, Home Improvement, Wings - that's an argument in and of itself.

                                      But they're definitely not in any box with "Good" under it.

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                                      • inb4_foundthevegan@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                                        You just listed the exact reasons the show is copaganda.

                                        American Police are not lovable goofballs full of historically oppressed minorities realizing they are the bad guys. They are not "tackling issues", they are lampshading and white washing them. Take the episode where Peralta meets the old detective from the book he loves on and is like

                                        "Oh wow, old school police were racist... glad they aren't anymore!"

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                                        And holt reminded him that it's still a narrative that needed to be corrected. What about the one where Terry was profiled? Or holt was denied his promotion?

                                        It's pretty clear that you wouldn't approve of any cop show that tries to work through these issues, so I'm not going to bother arguing with you. I think they did a great job, a lot of those episodes were very hard to watch because they were confronted with choosing a career under one pretended and then saw the reality. To do that with a comedic tone is incredibly hard, and I think they did well.

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                                          I wonder where Schitts Creek would fall

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                                          I'd argue it switches over time from lawful evil to chaotic good.

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