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  • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

    pontificate, harangue, bloviate, bluster, rant

    None of those words impart the same meaning as "mansplain." A new word would be preferable.

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    Bloviate pretty much covers what I do on work phone calls. In my defense (mildly), I welcome whenever someone interrupts me.

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      You know men tend to be larger than women?

      I had a live-in partner complain that all the clothes in the laundry basket were mine, implying she was doing most of the laundry. I looked. We wore the same amount of clothes, mine were just bigger, taking a larger volume.

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      Size doesn't make you spread your legs, blocking two other seats or make you wrap your arms around the back of the other seats. I've seen plenty of men who can keep their hands and knees in front of themselves.

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        You're right. The behavior really should be called "non-consensual info-dumping". Furthermore, people should ask first and only proceed to 'splain away if emphatic consent is given.

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        That's the key. I LOVE explaining things I'm passionate about but it's rude to just go wild on people, so I've developed a process to gauge familiarity and interest.

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          Size doesn't make you spread your legs, blocking two other seats or make you wrap your arms around the back of the other seats. I've seen plenty of men who can keep their hands and knees in front of themselves.

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          But .. it does? If you’re tall, your arms and legs are longer, so they stick out further. As I found out on an 11 hour flight where the people to my left and right decided they both needed both arm rests, it’s painful to sit with your knees and elbows touching each other.

          Wrapping my arm around a seatback would have been a godsend.

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            "Mansplaining" is sexist. It's the equivalent of saying women are airheads, or gossips, or talk too much.

            Is each man expected to just... Assume that everyone else shares their exact knowledge? Would such an assumption not therefore eliminate most communication entirely?

            Or what if we decided to divide up groups by something other than gender. Would it be okay to say "asiansplaining" or "jewsplaining" or "gaysplaoning"?

            Can a trans-man mansplaining? Can a trans-woman mansplain? Is there a separate category of "transplaining"?

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            Dude ngl so I was accused of mansplaining by an ex while explaining some technical shit I was talking about and I knew she didn't know, claiming she did in fact know..

            Assume that everyone else she shares their exact knowledge?

            And that's exactly what I did, upon her request. I stopped explaining technical terms when talking about something assuming she'll just know what a buffer tube and an H3 weight are. Turns out that made her "feel stupid" which of course wasn't my intention, I intended to both A) comply with her literal request as per respecting boundaries, and B) hope she'd see just how ineffective of a system that is for communication. Turns out I was the asshole for doing as she asked, who knew. She threatened to shoot me (she wasn't gonna do shit but still threatening to isn't exactly "chill") when we broke up for the crime of checks notes spending my own money legally, so I'm sure I was the problem lol.

            There's not much of a point to that story really other than I enjoy telling it but I rarely get to since it's rarely relevant, and to say don't bother assuming everyone knows things, they might just hate that too lol. Danged if ya do danged if ya don't, I'm royally danged.

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              She sounds like an asshole

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              • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

                I hate how the term "mansplaining" has mutated from "When a man condescendingly explains a subject to a woman who is an expert in that subject, because he assumes being a woman makes her ignorant", which is certainly a valid thing to be upset about, into "Whenever a man explains anything to any woman" , which is sexist and divisive.

                The term is still pretty sexist as originally used though. It inherently implies that it's a characteristic masculine behavior. If you disagree, allow me to demonstrate:

                I just came up with this term, "womancomplaining", it's when a woman exaggerates a minor inconvenience into a targeted victimization.

                How does that term make you feel? Does it seem to imply that I'm talking about a specific, isolated behavior? Or does it seem more like I'm implying this is a characteristic feminine behavior? Would it feel less sexist if I insisted I wasn't talking about all women, but if you take offense then maybe you feel defensive about being a womancomplainer? What if I told you to calm down, because if you aren't guilty of it then I'm not talking about you?

                It still seems pretty sexist, doesn't it.

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                I don't really see people use the term mansplain to mean anything other than men being condescending. While I do see it used "incorrectly" sometimes, I have no reason to believe the person using it doesn't believe the man is being rude/condescending. Just because I personally believe something isn't condescending doesn't mean the person doesn't view it like that (and whether the person is actually being condescending is a totally different topic). I see people call people assholes when they're not being assholes. I see people call people jerks when they're not being jerks. It's not really a new thing.

                In short, I don't believe anyone is using the term differently, it could be that you don't think the man doing the explaining is being condescending but they do, or it could be that the term really is used differently and I just haven't personally seen it (always a possibility).

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                  What was the deal with the Punic Wars again?

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                  I don't know.

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                  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.worksA [email protected]

                    I hate how the term "mansplaining" has mutated from "When a man condescendingly explains a subject to a woman who is an expert in that subject, because he assumes being a woman makes her ignorant", which is certainly a valid thing to be upset about, into "Whenever a man explains anything to any woman" , which is sexist and divisive.

                    The term is still pretty sexist as originally used though. It inherently implies that it's a characteristic masculine behavior. If you disagree, allow me to demonstrate:

                    I just came up with this term, "womancomplaining", it's when a woman exaggerates a minor inconvenience into a targeted victimization.

                    How does that term make you feel? Does it seem to imply that I'm talking about a specific, isolated behavior? Or does it seem more like I'm implying this is a characteristic feminine behavior? Would it feel less sexist if I insisted I wasn't talking about all women, but if you take offense then maybe you feel defensive about being a womancomplainer? What if I told you to calm down, because if you aren't guilty of it then I'm not talking about you?

                    It still seems pretty sexist, doesn't it.

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                    The post says "basic things"

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                    • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                      I've already heard the term "gaysplaining" unironically more than once in the bisexual sphere to call out gay people that try to gaslight bi people into thinking that they're not really bi.

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                      As we all know, a bi person dating a different gender than themselves is just confused and straight, while a bi person dating their own gender is pretending to be gay to fit into LGBTQ spaces. /s

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                      • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                        I also love explaining things and get excited when it's an area i know about, and then got accused of mansplaining. seeing that many men in these comments suffered the same fate, maybe some women could become more chill lol

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                        Can you give some examples?

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                          But .. it does? If you’re tall, your arms and legs are longer, so they stick out further. As I found out on an 11 hour flight where the people to my left and right decided they both needed both arm rests, it’s painful to sit with your knees and elbows touching each other.

                          Wrapping my arm around a seatback would have been a godsend.

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                          Alright, I see the problem. I'm describing how some men literally spread their arms across the back of multiple seats and how some men literally spread their legs out so that each knee is blocking access to each seat beside the and you are interpreting that as people complaining about guys being allowed to use their armrests. No one is complaining that you take up physical space. They are complaining that you are spread out in a way that blocks access to the space around you that you don't need. If you don't sit down and spread your knees wide enough to block access to the seats next to you, then the term manspreading doesn't apply to you.

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                            She sounds like an asshole

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                            Well she’s not here to impress you.

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                              My SO put it perfectly when I apologized for talking too much, she said "it's ok, I know you like to listen to yourself"

                              And honestly, I do talk to myself when nobody's around and there isn't a huge difference in what I'm saying in either context.

                              I'm not having a conversation with myself, I'm just kind of thinking out loud.

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                              My wife gets mad at me for not answering them when they ask me questions or acknowledging when they make statements to me. I've been with them over half my life and a few months ago I FINALLY found a way to describe it lol. I told them "sometimes you talk out loud to yourself". Because when they're talking to themselves I don't need to answer, so I'll tune out, but sometimes they start talking to me and I don't realize it because I'm tired or distracted. This was after we were both exhausted from the gym.

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                                She sounds like an asshole

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                                That's such a cool observation 🙂

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                                • P [email protected]

                                  "Mansplaining" is sexist. It's the equivalent of saying women are airheads, or gossips, or talk too much.

                                  Is each man expected to just... Assume that everyone else shares their exact knowledge? Would such an assumption not therefore eliminate most communication entirely?

                                  Or what if we decided to divide up groups by something other than gender. Would it be okay to say "asiansplaining" or "jewsplaining" or "gaysplaoning"?

                                  Can a trans-man mansplaining? Can a trans-woman mansplain? Is there a separate category of "transplaining"?

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                                  So when my ex-husband first went to vet tech school they, at some point, learned about menstruation. He proceeded to explain to me, a middle aged woman, how periods work, lol.

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                                  • soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                                    Awww, I'll be your data dump buddy! I'll tell you all about freshwater fish, brewing rice wine, and woodworking in great detail if you'll tell me your things in equal detail.

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                                    It's so cute when two eager guys become dumps for each other 🥰

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                                      Alright, I see the problem. I'm describing how some men literally spread their arms across the back of multiple seats and how some men literally spread their legs out so that each knee is blocking access to each seat beside the and you are interpreting that as people complaining about guys being allowed to use their armrests. No one is complaining that you take up physical space. They are complaining that you are spread out in a way that blocks access to the space around you that you don't need. If you don't sit down and spread your knees wide enough to block access to the seats next to you, then the term manspreading doesn't apply to you.

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                                      So taking up unnecessary public space is something particular to men? Do all men do this, or just only men?

                                      Or are we gendering bad behavior to win internet points?

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                                        She sounds like an asshole

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                                        ur mom lies to u

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                                          "Mansplaining" is sexist. It's the equivalent of saying women are airheads, or gossips, or talk too much.

                                          Is each man expected to just... Assume that everyone else shares their exact knowledge? Would such an assumption not therefore eliminate most communication entirely?

                                          Or what if we decided to divide up groups by something other than gender. Would it be okay to say "asiansplaining" or "jewsplaining" or "gaysplaoning"?

                                          Can a trans-man mansplaining? Can a trans-woman mansplain? Is there a separate category of "transplaining"?

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                                          "Mansplaining" is describing something sexist. It describes a real phenomenon that is necessarily gendered.

                                          It's not sexist for the same reason terms like "anti-semitism" or "gay bashing" aren't prejudiced. They're descriptive of a real thing that happens.

                                          Terminology like this can help women navigate problems that men don't have. If you don't see the value in it, maybe that's because you've never experienced that problem.

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