UK households could face VPN 'ban' after use skyrockets following Online Safety Bill
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Show me a ban that didn’t came with 10x problems. People have their needs even the filthy ones. Especially the filthy ones. Hence will find a way to fulfill it. If there’s no legal way to do so the demand will create an alternative market for it to match the demand…more trouble on the way if that’s the lane the UK choose
I'd tentatively say, casually available heroin, morphine and laudanum/opium.
It obviously caused problems and pushed the market underground but it seems to have worked out.
I'm not aware of any studies in to this though, so it's only conjecture/guesswork.
I'll also clearly state I'm not putting them on the same level as this current dystopian bullshittery.
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100% Brexit quickly shut up similar movements when people saw how badly it went
Now if only Trumpism would have shut down extremist right wing idiology globally.
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This ends with just another war on encryption.
When encryption is legal, they can't know what is going on between two points. They going to make is so we can only have encryption to nodes they trust?
It is dangerously technologically illiterate to wage war on encryption.
Jokes on you, e2e encryption is already banned in some cases in the uk afaik. Hence apple dropping some cloud services
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Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.
"If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.
Maybe if they see significant issues with the populace adhereing to this law they should identify the solution of revoking the unpopular law.
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Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.
"If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.
"We will force you to do what we want", democracy in action
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I'd tentatively say, casually available heroin, morphine and laudanum/opium.
It obviously caused problems and pushed the market underground but it seems to have worked out.
I'm not aware of any studies in to this though, so it's only conjecture/guesswork.
I'll also clearly state I'm not putting them on the same level as this current dystopian bullshittery.
wrote last edited by [email protected]It obviously caused problems and pushed the market underground but it seems to have worked out.
"Worked out" is people dieing from tainted drugs of a unknown potency? Youre a fucking monster.
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Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.
"If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.
There are ways around this even if they do ban vpn. Its a hopeless battle being fought by the ignorant.
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Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.
"If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.
And there's the other shoe dropping with VPNs now. Didn't even take them an extra fucking year
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Maybe if they see significant issues with the populace adhereing to this law they should identify the solution of revoking the unpopular law.
It's the populace that is wrong, not the lawmakers /s
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It obviously caused problems and pushed the market underground but it seems to have worked out.
"Worked out" is people dieing from tainted drugs of a unknown potency? Youre a fucking monster.
Hey now, that's a lot of animosity for a statement that doesn't do much to make a good point.
The original question was
Show me a ban that didn’t came with 10x problems
I posited a conjecture based guess with some basic reasoning and as i said , it was opinion more than provable fact.
By "worked out" i meant the overall situation is better after the ban, despite the negative consequences.
It seems that was lost on you, but now you know.
So let's address your reasoning, such as it is.
People died from tainted drugs before the ban, probably a lot from tainted drugs of the type in the ban.
Unless you have any evidence those numbers changed significantly after the ban, I'll chalk that up to your opinion.
Not a very reasonable one to my eyes, but such are angry people on the internet.
I was not aware i needed to provide an example of a ban that resulted in everything being completely fixed after the fact (mainly because that's not how the question was worded) but if that was, in fact, the requirement, my bad.
If I'm a monster (in your opinion) because i think the reduction in access to terribly addictive drugs might have overall brought down fatalities and other negative consequences, then i can live with that.
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Prominent backbench MP Sarah Champion launched a campaign against VPNs previously, saying: “My new clause 54 would require the Secretary of State to publish, within six months of the Bill’s passage, a report on the effect of VPN use on Ofcom’s ability to enforce the requirements under clause 112.
"If VPNs cause significant issues, the Government must identify those issues and find solutions, rather than avoiding difficult problems.” And the Labour Party said there were “gaps” in the bill that needed to be amended.
Damn. Labor really wants to lose that election to Farage. Good luck to Corbyn and Sultana, I guess.
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And there's the other shoe dropping with VPNs now. Didn't even take them an extra fucking year
Didn't even take a week.
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Alberta seems to have missed that memo.
Damn Alberta; always trying to leave the EU.
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Damn. Labor really wants to lose that election to Farage. Good luck to Corbyn and Sultana, I guess.
Farage: Gets elected.
Everyone: At least you'll abolish the OSA!
Farage: Nah, I said that because it would make me popular. Amma use the OSA to ban things I consider "woke".
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Jokes on you, e2e encryption is already banned in some cases in the uk afaik. Hence apple dropping some cloud services
If I was black hatter I would be looking at these people like they just dropped a golden goose.
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Farage: Gets elected.
Everyone: At least you'll abolish the OSA!
Farage: Nah, I said that because it would make me popular. Amma use the OSA to ban things I consider "woke".
Most authoritarian option there is.
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Couldn't people just hire a VPS in another country and VPN with that using Wireguard etc, or even use RDP etc to it? Is it even a VPN if you're remotely operating a computer in another country?
I have a Digital Ocean droplet in Amsterdam, runs OpenVPN server. $6/mo., no one sees my activity, haven't logged into it in years.
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This kinda proves that it was never about the children. How many children have know how and the means to buy a VPN subscription?
I started using a VPN after my friends/classmates told me about them in my Sophomore year of HS, mostly to get around the Wifi banning us from accessing certain apps (social media). Now, like all the other dumb kids, I used whatever they recommended, which was some shitty "Free" VPN that was probably stalking my data. But by Senior year, I smartened up and learned about online privacy and got myself a Proton VPN subscription after using the free version for a bit.
So yeah, I could totally believe middle-school and up are using VPNs, cause that's what we literally did.
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I’m uninformed. What’s the reason for the porn ID thing? Is it just porn or more?
You know the old saying... The politicians don't want children to be able to recognize a cunt.
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It has always been the main aim of legislation like this to nobble VPNs, they just needed the "child" "violent pornography" etc. excuse to do so. UK government already monitors all of the internet traffic for the UK, except for MPs who are exempt, VPNs are a blocker for this.
Obviously, not even the UK government would expect a private VPN ban (work VPNs would likely need an Ofcom license) to stop everybody from using a VPN or suitable alternative, its not the aim. The aim is to stop the majority from doing so and criminalize the minority who do still bypass the block as it gives them the power to seize equipment, ask for your logins (its illegal punishable with jail time to not supply this in the UK), request ISP logs etc. to deep dive into your life.
Work VPN doesn't look any different a porn VPN to the people tapping the line.
