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I created the weirdest political compass

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  • R [email protected]

    It wouldn’t be a good compass if nobody had strong issues with it:

    1. System vs Toy is not opposed to each other. Should have been system vs abstract or useful vs toy or whatever
    2. Where LISP? Best language missing makes graph bad

    Edit: before people tell me there’s already ‘obsolete’ on the graph, no, there’s loads of obsolete languages that are still useful, and many more new languages that are either built for fun or not used for sad or good reasons.

    Edit2: I’m also halfway sure that brainfuck is older than rust (but don’t wanna look it up). But if that’s true your axis mean several things at once anyway and you should feel bad (not really though).

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    I literally opened it looking for Lisp and dismissed the whole thing when I realized its not there

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      That it's an interpreted language rather than a compiled one. Bytecode and interpreted langs get the Toy Lang treatment. At least SQL has floating points.

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      So, it's an almost useless dimension with misleading names? Yeah, it's a good "political compass".

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      • seth_arimainyu@ieji.deS [email protected]

        @ZILtoid1991 well, according to this, I'll learn Go.

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        I started using Go a few months ago, I'm loving it so far. Simple, gets the job done, stays out of your way.

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          Yeah, the axes on this are weird, why would the opposite of a systems language be a toy language? And why is Lua, a very popular and commonly used language in tons of stuff, a "toy"? And Lua is a nu Lang? It's older than Java, maybe it just feels newer because each release isn't necessarily backwards compatible?

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            How are you defining "Obsolete" vs "Nu"?

            e.g. Brainfuck from 1993 is all the way to Nu, while D (2001) and Rust (2012) are less "Nu"?

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            Also, what the hell is "nu" supposed to mean?

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              COBOL is about as far from a "toy" as I can imagine. Almost everything corpo runs on it at some level.

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                Is Java more obsolete than c#?

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                  Also, what the hell is "nu" supposed to mean?

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                  OP probably lived through the mid-1990s rise of “nu-metal” bands like Linkin Park

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                    a lot of suspicuously missing lisps

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                      Why is it missing Haskell?

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                        Why is it missing Haskell?

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                        And Perl

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                          And Perl

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                          and Scala

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                            I started using Go a few months ago, I'm loving it so far. Simple, gets the job done, stays out of your way.

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                            Except for the thousands of lines of boilerplate 🤷‍♂️

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                              Assembly being obsolete has to be the funniest joke in here. It fundamentally never will be even if its use is niche

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                                and Scala

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                                And Lisp?

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                                  That it's an interpreted language rather than a compiled one. Bytecode and interpreted langs get the Toy Lang treatment. At least SQL has floating points.

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                                  Javascript is compiled, just in time.

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                                    Among this chart's many other issues raised elsewhere, Ada is in totally the wrong place. Probably more system than Rust right now, and definitely not obsolete.

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                                      And almost no one writes it for fun.

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                                        As a Ruby fan I’m just happy to be included for a change

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                                        • tetris11@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                                          a lot of suspicuously missing lisps

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                                          A systems language, one of the oldest but still in use and modeled after, used to build expensive research toys, which compiles itself via its interpreter…. is in some 4d space this plane doesn't slice through.

                                          FORTH also out in space somewhere

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