Do you think anyone will be able to remember who any of us are in 600 years?
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I am doing Genealogy as a hobby and in most of the lines I am in the 18the century, in some in the 17th century.
What I learned during this hobby is a simple thing - the more generations you go back, the more ancestors you have - the formula is 2^n. So if you go back 10 generations, you have roughly 1,024 ancestors.
Now imagine how many descendants these people have? I have met plenty of others nerds who are also doing genealogy, cousins by 7the grade and so on. There is always some dude doing this stuff, so I am pretty sure there will be one in the future.
Of course I can only go back about 300-350 years, but we people today are leaving way more traces on this planet than my ancestors in the 17th century.
the formula is 2^n
This breaks down eventually. Eventually, incest.
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the formula is 2^n
This breaks down eventually. Eventually, incest.
That's why I said roughly. The genealogical concept behind this is Ahnenschwund or pedigree collapse.
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I really doubt this. Humanity is really good at surviving things.
My prediction - at a certain point, we gain the ability to port human brains to computers. The most wealthy gain this tech first, and effectively become immortal. Using their wealth (which is likely always accumulating) they are able to afford lots of redundency and good tech + energy to function at extremely high levels of performance - essentially making them immortal gods. I assume they will form alliances and rivalries, and stake out ground based on the now-general-intelligence AIs they have created.
Most people who choose transhumanism after this will need to utilize their afterlife continuing to work in order to pay for the ongoing cost of running their servers.
Meanwhile, humans still made of meat will have started conducting experiments on their genetics. Initially this will be about simply reducing or removing the chance of carrying a genetic disease. But soon they will start working on how to generally be better than others - improved cognitive abilities; sexier, stronger bodies; improved emotional regulation. Not long after, it will start being considered irresponsible to have children without the standard genetic modifications that the middle class can afford. Permanent class stratifications will be etched into dna. Even further along, the rich take genetic modification into fashion, creating physical markers of class stratification which will gradually make them look less human. As genetic class differences widen, there will be increasing class wars - in each one, the upper classes and those aligned with them will eliminate more and more of the lower classes. Slavery will also make a comeback, as those without genetic modifications (or with sufficiently lesser modifications) will be deemed too irresponsible to manage their own affairs and function in society. The descendents of the ultra-rich transhumanist gods, who will have the best and most fashionable genetic modifications, will be the first to achieve immortality in the flesh. But there will probably develop a sort of cultural expectation that they eventually give up their flesh and become transhumans like their anscestors.
Therefore, I will not have children unless I earn enough to afford their genetic modifications. To do otherwise would be irresponsible.
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You never know, look at Ea Nasir.
Copper is so reusable, any of you could be currently affected by the poor quality
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There's a running phrase that gets' mentioned a lot in the Peanuts comic strip: "500 years from now, who'll know the difference?"
Just wanted to mention that. Peace
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I think some of the tech geniuses of our time will be remembered since it was the birth of the internet.
I mean, we remember Da Vinci, Columbus, and Martin Luther. That was 600 years ago.
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Some aspects of that tradition are commendable, though. It would be neat to see this updated in a less male-centric fashion.
Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people.
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I think some of the tech geniuses of our time will be remembered since it was the birth of the internet.
I mean, we remember Da Vinci, Columbus, and Martin Luther. That was 600 years ago.
What will anyone remember any of us in a 1 million years?
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What will anyone remember any of us in a 1 million years?
Remember isnt the word for it but they will probably have some vague allusion to the depravity and unbridled hubirus of the flesh times.
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I imagine some archivists might find the lost fragments of this server is some ruins and by some miracle, maybe extract this very thread.
Yes. Or, they'll get the thread with the awkward dog meme about a microwave. It's beautiful to contemplate.
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Why can’t it be both?
Why does it need to be one or the other?
Trust me if someone finds the cure for cancer, the cure will still be around in 200 years.
It can be both, digital records last forever. The Forgotten Generation will be the the last forgotten generation.
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Dude I’ll forget you ever existed when I leave this thread. Bye.
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I imagine some archivists might find the lost fragments of this server is some ruins and by some miracle, maybe extract this very thread.
We all will be living inside the weights of LLMs from this era.
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Dude I’ll forget you ever existed when I leave this thread. Bye.
Gonna be awkward as fuck if there is an afterlife and you run into OP after you both expire.
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Me personally? Absolutely not and that's great. Someone who is alive now? Probably yes. We know about Socrates and Caesar and Leif Erickson and Ghengis Khan and Cleopatra.
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We all will be living inside the weights of LLMs from this era.
I think I'm part of what makes it stupid tho
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We all will be living inside the weights of LLMs from this era.
Ok that's actually an interesting use of AI. Train on only media from that time period. This is Daniel, from the year 1400. Tell me about the Catholic Church
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That's why I said roughly. The genealogical concept behind this is Ahnenschwund or pedigree collapse.
Fair enough. I just wanted to make an incest joke
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not if you don't make art
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The vast, vast majority of people are forgotten within 100 years. Pretty much need to be in an extremely high position where records are kept, like presidents, or do something extraordinarily positive or negative.
I strongly doubt anyone reading this post will be remembered after the people they met or interacted with directly have died.
I'm still alive and I'm already forgotten.
