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Germany's AfD's far-right leader Alice Weidel held secret meetings with Chinese envoy, it has also emerged that she was on China’s payroll for several years

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  • R [email protected]

    Yeah, and let us not forget that many of their voters receive their 'information' exclusively from social media, and here primarily from Tiktok and Xitter. The algorithms likely don't show them anything bad of China, Russia, AfD, ...

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    You don't have to mention people when replying to them. They'll get a notification automatically.

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      And again, a bunch of traitors waving the banner of patriotism. It's as pathetic as it is predictable.

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      Seriously. Apparently this needs to be taught in kindergarten. How many times has this happened in recent history now...

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        Seriously. Apparently this needs to be taught in kindergarten. How many times has this happened in recent history now...

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        Thanks to every major party having made austerity some kind of state religion, the axe has been taken to the entire education system numerous times in the past 5 decades. Also, the famed post WW2 denazification, especially in the administration, has been largely a sad joke. Coincidentally one of the more radical prominent figures in the AfD, a certain Mr Höcke, who can, by court verdict, be legally called a fascist, is a history teacher of all Things.

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        • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

          It is very funny that "Literally Neo-Nazi" isn't disqualifying in any respect but "Doctoral study of the Chinese pension system" is what puts your head on the chopping block.

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          The PhD was already public knowledge and is therefore clearly not the issue here.

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            The PhD was already public knowledge and is therefore clearly not the issue here.

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            Sure. The "China" appears to be what has people upset. Had she been working for JP Morgan Chase and taking private meetings with Jamie Diamon, the AfD voting base wouldn't care.

            What should seemingly be disqualifying is being a Nazi. But if she's working with Chinese bureaucrats on an economic plan, I suspect the response she'll get is "Oh no! She's going to let more Chinese workers into the country to steal our jobs!"

            Basically the same reactionary response American fascists had to Vivek's Urkele rant.

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            • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

              Sure. The "China" appears to be what has people upset. Had she been working for JP Morgan Chase and taking private meetings with Jamie Diamon, the AfD voting base wouldn't care.

              What should seemingly be disqualifying is being a Nazi. But if she's working with Chinese bureaucrats on an economic plan, I suspect the response she'll get is "Oh no! She's going to let more Chinese workers into the country to steal our jobs!"

              Basically the same reactionary response American fascists had to Vivek's Urkele rant.

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              I agree, I doubt the AfD base would care. However, I would like them to reach the conclusion of "Don't vote AfD" within the next two days even if they wouldn't have done so on the basis of other corruption

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                You don't have to mention people when replying to them. They'll get a notification automatically.

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                But they also wanted to notify other users than the one they were replying to. From my experience, you only get notified if someone directly replied to you.

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                  I agree, I doubt the AfD base would care. However, I would like them to reach the conclusion of "Don't vote AfD" within the next two days even if they wouldn't have done so on the basis of other corruption

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                  The problem with fascist parties is they tend to be as skeptical of outside news as they are gullible towards insider news. "She's a Chinese Fifth Columnist who will turn Berlin over to Beijing!" is the sort of thing fascists eager to believe about outsiders but very reluctant to accept of one of their own.

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                    ...

                    Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

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                    The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

                    The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

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                    AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

                    In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

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                    As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

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                    In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

                    While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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                    So AfD is supported by China, russia and the US? Which major countries do we have left outside the EU to help fight fascist bullshit?

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                      Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

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                      The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

                      The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

                      ...

                      AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

                      In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

                      ...

                      As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

                      ...

                      In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

                      While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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                      so far right came all the way around to communist

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                      • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                        Sure. The "China" appears to be what has people upset. Had she been working for JP Morgan Chase and taking private meetings with Jamie Diamon, the AfD voting base wouldn't care.

                        What should seemingly be disqualifying is being a Nazi. But if she's working with Chinese bureaucrats on an economic plan, I suspect the response she'll get is "Oh no! She's going to let more Chinese workers into the country to steal our jobs!"

                        Basically the same reactionary response American fascists had to Vivek's Urkele rant.

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                        But if she’s working with Chinese bureaucrats on an economic plan ...

                        You have again (maybe intentionally?) misunderstood the issue. China is working to undermine democracy in Germany (as well as it does elsewhere, btw). What the AfD and China have in mind has nothing to do with an 'economic plan.' The China-related scandals of AfD politicians and arrests of their AfD staff last year are only a faint spark of the 'plan' they pursue.

                        This is not for, but against Germany and its democratic institutions what they are doing.

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                        • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                          The problem with fascist parties is they tend to be as skeptical of outside news as they are gullible towards insider news. "She's a Chinese Fifth Columnist who will turn Berlin over to Beijing!" is the sort of thing fascists eager to believe about outsiders but very reluctant to accept of one of their own.

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                          The problem with fascist parties like the AfD, CCP, and all the others is that they don't care about democracy and human rights.

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                            so far right came all the way around to communist

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                            Where's the communists in this equation

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                            • H [email protected]

                              So...I guess these articles now have confirmed that USA Trump- RF Putin- CCP Jinpin- have their interests aligned and wish to undermine democracies.

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                              And we're too tired to even say told so

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                                Pikachu got a stache

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                                • crimeschneck@feddit.nlC [email protected]

                                  But they also wanted to notify other users than the one they were replying to. From my experience, you only get notified if someone directly replied to you.

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                                  I'm not blaming you or op, just jokingly wondering am I the only one who feels getting notified is rude

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                                    You clearly have misunderstood the whole thing here.

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                                    Intentionally.

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                                      ...

                                      Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

                                      ...

                                      The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

                                      The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

                                      ...

                                      AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

                                      In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

                                      ...

                                      As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

                                      ...

                                      In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

                                      While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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                                      Spies need to be kicked out of the country and organizations set up by them have to be banned.

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                                        so far right came all the way around to communist

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                                        Is this what she meant when she called Hitler a "communist"? Not like "ew, communists" but "oh yeah, communists, like the good folks in the CCP who gave me money"?

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                                          Where's the communists in this equation

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                                          ..China?

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