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Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.

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  • ? Guest

    I think that's bad (for my personal use) because if I accidentally commit a secret key, how do I claw it back? Basically, how would I claw anything back if it's on a blockchain aka on thousands/millions of computers already (you can't).

    zarkanian@sh.itjust.worksZ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #148

    You are correct in principle, but Lemmy isn't on a blockchain. It's much less permanent.

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      We need something like Forgejo, but decentralized, like Lemmy. I don't want to create a new account for every Forgejo instance.

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      Gitea has basic federation, I believe

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      • T [email protected]

        Might check out Zed. Relatively new editor from the folks behind Atom and treesitter. Extremely fast with an excellent interface and vim mode. The second best vim mode behind Neovim.

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        Zed is great! Not as many features as IntelliJ, but insanely fast, and new features are being added all the time.

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        • ? Guest

          I think that's bad (for my personal use) because if I accidentally commit a secret key, how do I claw it back? Basically, how would I claw anything back if it's on a blockchain aka on thousands/millions of computers already (you can't).

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          #151

          Obviously you go and change the key instead?

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          • V [email protected]

            Have you heard of ... Git?

            🙂

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            There is no command git issue create [hostname] [title] [description] and if there was such a command, it'd require authentication on the specific instance to prevent spam.

            You still need to create an account on each Forgejo instance to report a bug there...

            And even, if you commit code or make a pull request... Git might be decentralized (you can develop with your friend independently from each other and merge it), but try to commit code to a GitHub project, GitLab instance or Forgejo instance without having an account there to authenticate yourself... It won't work.

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            • blackmist@feddit.ukB [email protected]

              One of their main contributors are in US sanctioned regions (Russia) so they can't access it.

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              Really! Can't believe them. Yeah fk microsoft.

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                Forgejo is such a terrible name 🙄

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                #154

                That's because it's using a language you don't speak.

                I love Esperanto, so to me forgejo is very cool

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                • ? Guest

                  I think that's bad (for my personal use) because if I accidentally commit a secret key, how do I claw it back? Basically, how would I claw anything back if it's on a blockchain aka on thousands/millions of computers already (you can't).

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                  I did not mean decentralized hosting of the projects (e.g. your project will be on all instances).

                  I meant decentralized account usage (e.g. you can use your example.com forgejo account to create an issue on otherexample.org)... Just like Lemmy... I could use my reddthat.com lemmy account to create a post on your instance lemmy.world without having to register there.

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                  • ? Guest

                    I think that's bad (for my personal use) because if I accidentally commit a secret key, how do I claw it back? Basically, how would I claw anything back if it's on a blockchain aka on thousands/millions of computers already (you can't).

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                    #156

                    If you push a secret key you should definitely generate a new one. Way to many bots out there that scan new commits for exactly that reason

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                      The issue tracker is usually the concern

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                      Yeah, that was my point in the first comment... But not only that...

                      The development with multiple people is decentralized, yes...

                      But even, if I add 3 remotes to my repo (1 to GitHub, 1 to Forgejo instance A and 1 to Forgejo instance B), guess what happens, if you don't have an account on each of these... Try pushing code or making a pull request and see how it fails, because you are not authenticated...

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                      • elrecoal19_1@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                        I do, what I don't know is how Forgejo works. Doesn't having to make an account for every project mean it's already decentraliced, but just doesn't communicate between instances?

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                        #158

                        I agree that it's already kind of decentralized, so I also added the word "federated" to my original post.

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                          We need something like Forgejo, but decentralized, like Lemmy. I don't want to create a new account for every Forgejo instance.

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                          Federation is on their roadmap

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                          • H [email protected]

                            If you push a secret key you should definitely generate a new one. Way to many bots out there that scan new commits for exactly that reason

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                            Yeah please just rotate the secret if that happens. Doesn't matter what platform it is, this is true of GitHub as well. Secrets that are accidentally published are no longer secret.

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                            • ? Guest

                              Really! Can't believe them. Yeah fk microsoft.

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                              Russia is being sanctioned because of its aggressive war against Ukraine.

                              Microsoft aren’t the bad guys for enforcing international sanctions.

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                                if you are looking for decentralised vcs you can try radicle, I tried a while ago pretty good.

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                                FYI Forgejo supports mastodon login

                                That's interesting. Did not even know, Mastodon supported doing something like this...

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                                  There is no command git issue create [hostname] [title] [description] and if there was such a command, it'd require authentication on the specific instance to prevent spam.

                                  You still need to create an account on each Forgejo instance to report a bug there...

                                  And even, if you commit code or make a pull request... Git might be decentralized (you can develop with your friend independently from each other and merge it), but try to commit code to a GitHub project, GitLab instance or Forgejo instance without having an account there to authenticate yourself... It won't work.

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                                  You mean git inherently requires you to identify yourself?

                                  Huh, shock

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                                    I agree that it's already kind of decentralized, so I also added the word "federated" to my original post.

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                                    Okay, that makes it way more clear 😜

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                                      You mean git inherently requires you to identify yourself?

                                      Huh, shock

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                                      I'm not sure what you are trying to say.

                                      My point was from the beginning that I don't want to create 2 accounts when I report a bug a bug on Forgejo instance 1 and on instance 2.

                                      The suggestion whether I have heard about git does not solve anything about that...

                                      Some one else here mentioned that it's possible to login with Mastodon on each of the instance, which is the correct direction (allows to report a bug on both instances via an external account). Disadvantage is still: My 2 bug reports are not linked to each other, because there is no shared Forgejo profile, which would actually require something like federation.

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                                        A country the USA doesn't like

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                                        Seems so arbitrary that they just block the entire project instead of the user in the sanctioned region.

                                        ¯_(ツ)_/¯

                                        Probably for the best, GitHub seems like a liability (to a lamen like me, anyway)

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                                          If you push a secret key you should definitely generate a new one. Way to many bots out there that scan new commits for exactly that reason

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                                          Yeah it's not an insurmountable problem but it has happened to me where I push some commits and I realize "oh lemme remove this code because it leaks a little info about me personally" etc

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