Exclusive: Early US intel assessment suggests strikes on Iran did not destroy nuclear sites, sources say | CNN Politics
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I'm not arguing Israel's or the US's intent to destroy the Iranian government (and, for the record, the Iranian government is definitely shitty, even a notable portion of their population loathes it as well). That Israel--and the current US administration--has been wanting to attack Iran for any reason, even if the reason is dubious, is not in question.
What I'm arguing is that you said this was all to prevent Iran to have nuclear energy, which is untrue since Iran already has that. And it is also undeniable that Iran has not been complying with the IAEA's inspectors since 2019. Why would the IAEA report that Iran is enriching uranium beyond what is needed for energy? Why is Iran not complying with their inspectors?
Those are questions worth asking and seeking the answers to. I do not agree they should be outright attacked over such things, but to pretend like Iran is completely innocent is ridiculous. It's unfortunate that genocidal war criminals are running Israel and a corrupt group of fascists is running the US at the moment, but it is unsurprising that they are not seeking to resolve these issues peacefully.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]What I’m arguing is that you said this was all to prevent Iran to have nuclear energy, which is untrue since Iran already has that.
They have a single nuclear plant that had been under construction since 1975 and was held up repeatedly by foreign intervention, including the 2009 sabotage effort by the Obama administration's CIA - which, incidentally, gave the rest of the world exposure to the Stuxnet virus as collateral. Then there has been the persistent effort by US and Israeli intelligence services to kidnap and assassinate Iranian nuclear scientists, also going back decades. Not even including the assassination efforts since 2021, we've seen attacks in 2007, 2009, 2010, and 2011 all linked back to western aligned governments.
"Iran has a single nuclear power plant so what are you complaining about?" is deliberately naive and obtuse, particularly when peer nations like Germany and France have enjoyed the benefits of between six and fifty-six plants going back over 40 years. Hell, the UAE has four active plants and over 5x Iran's total energy capacity for a population 1/10th the size, without provoking the kind of intervention and assault the Iranians have endured.
The latest bombing of uranium enrichment facilities - hell, the fact that they need to bury their refinement facilities at the bottom of a mountain to begin with - illustrate the undo costs and constant threats Iranians need to endure in order to modernize their electric grids.
I do not agree they should be outright attacked over such things, but to pretend like Iran is completely innocent is ridiculous.
Innocent of what? Implementing energy modernization strategies that have been in the works since prior to the revolution?
What are you even accusing them of? Not adhering to an arms control agreement the US pulled out of as an excuse to attack them? It's insane to even talk about the Iranian nuclear program absent the malicious history of foreign intervention.
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What I’m arguing is that you said this was all to prevent Iran to have nuclear energy, which is untrue since Iran already has that.
They have a single nuclear plant that had been under construction since 1975 and was held up repeatedly by foreign intervention, including the 2009 sabotage effort by the Obama administration's CIA - which, incidentally, gave the rest of the world exposure to the Stuxnet virus as collateral. Then there has been the persistent effort by US and Israeli intelligence services to kidnap and assassinate Iranian nuclear scientists, also going back decades. Not even including the assassination efforts since 2021, we've seen attacks in 2007, 2009, 2010, and 2011 all linked back to western aligned governments.
"Iran has a single nuclear power plant so what are you complaining about?" is deliberately naive and obtuse, particularly when peer nations like Germany and France have enjoyed the benefits of between six and fifty-six plants going back over 40 years. Hell, the UAE has four active plants and over 5x Iran's total energy capacity for a population 1/10th the size, without provoking the kind of intervention and assault the Iranians have endured.
The latest bombing of uranium enrichment facilities - hell, the fact that they need to bury their refinement facilities at the bottom of a mountain to begin with - illustrate the undo costs and constant threats Iranians need to endure in order to modernize their electric grids.
I do not agree they should be outright attacked over such things, but to pretend like Iran is completely innocent is ridiculous.
Innocent of what? Implementing energy modernization strategies that have been in the works since prior to the revolution?
What are you even accusing them of? Not adhering to an arms control agreement the US pulled out of as an excuse to attack them? It's insane to even talk about the Iranian nuclear program absent the malicious history of foreign intervention.
Again, you're ignoring that the IAEA's entire purpose is non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. Why deny compliance to third-party inspectors? If their endeavors were truly so innocent, then they had no reason to be uncooperative.
Sorry, I will not feel pity towards the Iranian government. I sympathize for their people, but their government can shove off.
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“Exclusive” then why is every major news outlet reporting it? Shut up CNN, a fox in donkey clothing.
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Did she make an L with her hand on her forehead?
SomeBODY
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“Exclusive” then why is every major news outlet reporting it? Shut up CNN, a fox in donkey clothing.
So far all the other outlets i have seen reported that CNN reported on it. So the interesting bit apparently only is with CNN.
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Again, you're ignoring that the IAEA's entire purpose is non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. Why deny compliance to third-party inspectors? If their endeavors were truly so innocent, then they had no reason to be uncooperative.
Sorry, I will not feel pity towards the Iranian government. I sympathize for their people, but their government can shove off.
the IAEA’s entire purpose is non-proliferation of nuclear weapons
Oh? How many inspections have they made in Israel?
Sorry, I will not feel pity towards the Iranian government.
Of course not. Your brain is poisoned by hate.
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What? Iran already has a nuclear power plant with a 2nd one beginning construction in 2019 and a 3rd one planned. And the International Atomic Energy Agency had reported that Iran was not complying with their inspectors on numerous occasions: https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/06/1164291
So wtf are you talking about?
I'm not saying they have/had nukes, but your story is just completely made up.
You know there is a difference between a bomb and a power plant, right?
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I'm not arguing Israel's or the US's intent to destroy the Iranian government (and, for the record, the Iranian government is definitely shitty, even a notable portion of their population loathes it as well). That Israel--and the current US administration--has been wanting to attack Iran for any reason, even if the reason is dubious, is not in question.
What I'm arguing is that you said this was all to prevent Iran to have nuclear energy, which is untrue since Iran already has that. And it is also undeniable that Iran has not been complying with the IAEA's inspectors since 2019. Why would the IAEA report that Iran is enriching uranium beyond what is needed for energy? Why is Iran not complying with their inspectors?
Those are questions worth asking and seeking the answers to. I do not agree they should be outright attacked over such things, but to pretend like Iran is completely innocent is ridiculous. It's unfortunate that genocidal war criminals are running Israel and a corrupt group of fascists is running the US at the moment, but it is unsurprising that they are not seeking to resolve these issues peacefully.
Iran was complying with the JCPOA before Trump killed it in his first term simply because Obama did it. And even then, they continued to comply with these limits and the IAEA inspections up until, at least, early 2019.
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Again, you're ignoring that the IAEA's entire purpose is non-proliferation of nuclear weapons. Why deny compliance to third-party inspectors? If their endeavors were truly so innocent, then they had no reason to be uncooperative.
Sorry, I will not feel pity towards the Iranian government. I sympathize for their people, but their government can shove off.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]They were complying with the JCPOA, according to the IAEA, up until at least early 2019, despite Trump killing the agreement years prior.
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IAEA Director General's Introductory Statement to the Board of Governors
…we must return to the negotiating table and for that allow IAEA inspectors… to go back to Iran’s nuclear sites and account for the stockpiles of uranium, including, most importantly, the 400kg enriched to 60%.
The Board should be aware of a letter sent to me by Foreign Minister Dr Abbas Araghchi on 13 June in which he mentions that Iran will “adopt special measures to protect our nuclear equipment and materials”.
So we went from Iran almost 100% cooperating with the JCPOA, to Trump throwing out the deal, permitting an Israeli first strike, to enriched material loose inside of a nation we just attacked…
I don’t ever, fucking ever, want to hear a Republican talking about any degree of Democrat foreign policy failures. Jfc, how does he bungle the crisis - the crisis he created - so completely?
Bombing Iran is bipartisan, dems aren't pushing back in the slightest, it would have happened regardless.
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I think trump would immediately throw a company under the bus for their "weak loser bombs" if they didn't perform as designed.
I think trump would immediately "you're fired" a general for spec-ing the wrong bombs.I think the intel was wrong
wrote on last edited by [email protected]No he wouldn't. Pretending it was successful is 100% within his M.O.
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Man where is OutKast and their ability to see thru the Bullshit? Does this really just mean the US and Israeli media are manufacturing consent to continue attacking Iran?
Because make no mistake, at this point anything the Fascist regime says, well I just assume the opposite is actually true! Shit is so corrupted.
OutKast
The Atlanta rap duo? What?
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They were complying with the JCPOA, according to the IAEA, up until at least early 2019, despite Trump killing the agreement years prior.
Yes, I pointed that out in an earlier response.
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the IAEA’s entire purpose is non-proliferation of nuclear weapons
Oh? How many inspections have they made in Israel?
Sorry, I will not feel pity towards the Iranian government.
Of course not. Your brain is poisoned by hate.
Oh I'm sorry, the Iranian government hasn't violently put down any female civil rights movements there?
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Oh I'm sorry, the Iranian government hasn't violently put down any female civil rights movements there?
Is that why we bombed them
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Yeah, it's shocking that it's real. Reads like a message from a dictatorship.
It would be shocking if we didn't know full well that it's a dictatorship.
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God fucking damnit fuck this fucking timeline I'm so sick of fucking war and reading about this stressful shit and having to decipher political bullshit and who has and doesn't have bombs and who is telling the truth and who is being manipulative
Can we all just not?? Fuck
