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Installing Guix as a Complete GNU/Linux System - System Crafters

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  • tasankovasara@sopuli.xyzT [email protected]

    I quit on day two with two takeaways:

    – Hardware must be well supported in fully-libre-land - I was trying to install on a Mac Mini and had to go nonguix pretty much right away. That kind of spoiled the whole effort.

    – Profound meditation and enlightenment on the essence of Scheme is a must. I had one of those 'no, this is where you don't want a closing brace' moments and my zen was blown out of the water.

    I would have soldiered on, but personally I like Arch first and foremost because I can (and do) have a local repo by rsyncing a rotation of mirrors couple of times a week. Just in case the Internet dies one day, you know. I realised Guix was not really suitable for the apocalypse use case, so after that brace episode I decided to stick with what my spine already knows.

    After all that is said – I really hope you fare better 😄

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    personally I like Arch first and foremost because I can (and do) have a local repo by rsyncing a rotation of mirrors couple of times a week.

    Are these mirrors for prebuilt packages? If not, you should be able to pull from other channels, create your own channel and include all your packages while building them locally.

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      Could you share how you do that? It didn't work last time I tried it (using Nix on top of Guix).

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      You have to setup a Nix service and do some symlink-ing

      https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Miscellaneous-Services.html

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      • paequ2@lemmy.todayP [email protected]

        Trying out Guix for the first time! Waiting for packages to download.

        I'm a long time Arch user. Any tips?!

        I've heard there aren't as many packages for Guix as other distros, but I was thinking Flatpak and distrobox will help bridge the gap for me.

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        Btw, here's how you configure HiDPI for GNOME. Unfortunately, my laptop has a hydeepeeay display, so it's not fully compatible with Linux. (It's 3840x2160, so at least 2x scaling is possible, hypothetically.)

        Commands from the Arch Wiki, but also adds cursor scaling:

        $ gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xsettings overrides "[{'Gdk/WindowScalingFactor', <2>}, {'Gtk/CursorThemeSize', <48>}]"
        $ gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor 2
        

        The default GNOME configuration is some how missing that. I didn't have to do that in Arch, but I do in Guix. IDK. Anyway, if you don't run those commands certain apps will be tiny, including a tiny mouse cursor.

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          personally I like Arch first and foremost because I can (and do) have a local repo by rsyncing a rotation of mirrors couple of times a week.

          Are these mirrors for prebuilt packages? If not, you should be able to pull from other channels, create your own channel and include all your packages while building them locally.

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          Sure, but then I'd be downloading every single source 'package' and compiling for both x86 and ARM - not exactly feasible. Keeping just the sources might be an option though. The point is to have the whole repo, not just the packages I use, so that in the SHTF scenario I can help others install Arch and any software they may need on their machines. Muhahaha, Arch will prevail 👻

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          • paequ2@lemmy.todayP [email protected]

            guix shell and guix shell container for dev environment isolation

            Yeah! This is one of the features I'm most interested in. I haven't gotten to using this feature yet, but I was curious about it.

            Let's say I'm working on a project that requires Go, Node, maybe some C library, and GNU Make. Seems like I would be able to use guix shell for this, right? Great.

            Now if a friend wanted to work on the project, could I share my guix shell configuration with him? (Assuming he's also a Guix user.)

            I'm currently using distrobox.ini plus distrobox assemble for this kind of workflow, but of course this isn't totally reproducible.

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            yes, you would share with him guix manifest which is a file that specifies which packages should be present. What is important to note are inferiors which is a mechanism to version lock the packages.

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              yes, you would share with him guix manifest which is a file that specifies which packages should be present. What is important to note are inferiors which is a mechanism to version lock the packages.

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              share with him guix manifest

              Aaaah: https://guix.gnu.org/manual/devel/en/html_node/Writing-Manifests.html

              # Write a manifest for the packages specified on the command line.
              guix shell --export-manifest gcc-toolchain make git > manifest.scm
              

              Heck yeah!

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                I want to love Guix (both the package manager and the distro). I want to love Scheme. But I can never find any good tutorials for Scheme and using it with Guix. The GNU documentation is more of a reference than a tutorial. I use Emacs on the daily, and I just can't get into Scheme.

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                  I want to love Guix (both the package manager and the distro). I want to love Scheme. But I can never find any good tutorials for Scheme and using it with Guix. The GNU documentation is more of a reference than a tutorial. I use Emacs on the daily, and I just can't get into Scheme.

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                  I use Emacs on the daily, and I just can’t get into Scheme.

                  Do you find that Elisp and Scheme are too different? I don't know either, so they look almost the same to me.

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                  • paequ2@lemmy.todayP [email protected]

                    I use Emacs on the daily, and I just can’t get into Scheme.

                    Do you find that Elisp and Scheme are too different? I don't know either, so they look almost the same to me.

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                    @[email protected] I mean... I don't really fully understand Elisp either, despite my Emacs config being 10 years old! 😅

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                      Could you share how you do that? It didn't work last time I tried it (using Nix on top of Guix).

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                      to install nix succesfully on my laptop I had to do the following steps:

                      guix install nix

                      nix-channel --list

                      if nixpkgs is not in channel then add

                      nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-unstable

                      sudo nix-channel --update --verbose

                      now change the group and ower of /nix

                      cd /nix/

                      sudo chown -R {your user name} ./var

                      sudo chown -R {your user name} ./store

                      sudo chgrp -R users ./var

                      sudo chgrp -R users ./store

                      now update the channels

                      nix-channel --update --verbose

                      ################################

                      then install say firefox

                      nix-env -iA nixpkgs.firefox

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                        to install nix succesfully on my laptop I had to do the following steps:

                        guix install nix

                        nix-channel --list

                        if nixpkgs is not in channel then add

                        nix-channel --add https://nixos.org/channels/nixpkgs-unstable

                        sudo nix-channel --update --verbose

                        now change the group and ower of /nix

                        cd /nix/

                        sudo chown -R {your user name} ./var

                        sudo chown -R {your user name} ./store

                        sudo chgrp -R users ./var

                        sudo chgrp -R users ./store

                        now update the channels

                        nix-channel --update --verbose

                        ################################

                        then install say firefox

                        nix-env -iA nixpkgs.firefox

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                        Thanks! I think I need to set up the service first in my config.scm, right?

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