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      why signal?

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        Signal isn't federated; it is decentralized ^[1]^. Though, for all practical purposes, I would generally argue that it's centralized.

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        1. Signal-Server. signalapp. Github. Published: 2025-01-31T15:34:14.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:24Z. https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server.
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          What does signal have to do with anything?

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            Signal isn't federated; it is decentralized ^[1]^. Though, for all practical purposes, I would generally argue that it's centralized.

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            1. Signal-Server. signalapp. Github. Published: 2025-01-31T15:34:14.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:24Z. https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server.
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            Signal is hostile to third party clients like Molly.im as well

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              Feel like Matrix or Email would have made more sense as a federated service for communication, but get Signal is a lot more well known.

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                Signal isn't federated; it is decentralized ^[1]^. Though, for all practical purposes, I would generally argue that it's centralized.

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                1. Signal-Server. signalapp. Github. Published: 2025-01-31T15:34:14.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:24Z. https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server.
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                Yeah. I love Signal but it doesn't belong in that list. Dansup (creator of loops and pixelfed) is apparently working on "Sup" that will be a decentralized alternative to whatsapp.

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                  Anyone know if loops has a good app out, or if there's one in the works thats coming out soon?

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                    Facebook messenger to sup fediverse messages platform

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                      Signal isn't federated; it is decentralized ^[1]^. Though, for all practical purposes, I would generally argue that it's centralized.

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                      1. Signal-Server. signalapp. Github. Published: 2025-01-31T15:34:14.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:24Z. https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server.
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                      Don't let perfect be the enemy of good

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                        Don't let perfect be the enemy of good

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                        My comment wasn't protesting the use of Signal; it was rather clarifying the misinformation in OP's post — ie misinformation that Signal is a federated service.

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                          Anyone know if loops has a good app out, or if there's one in the works thats coming out soon?

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                          The app is really bare bones. It's also not federated (yet, but use a product for what it is right now, not what it promises to be).

                          Has potential but also dansup keeps running head-first into controversial takes.

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                            The app is really bare bones. It's also not federated (yet, but use a product for what it is right now, not what it promises to be).

                            Has potential but also dansup keeps running head-first into controversial takes.

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                            Oh, i see. Still interesting, thanks for the info

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                              Feel like Matrix or Email would have made more sense as a federated service for communication, but get Signal is a lot more well known.

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                              Also an entirely different thing, email is nothing alike to IMs.

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                                The app is really bare bones. It's also not federated (yet, but use a product for what it is right now, not what it promises to be).

                                Has potential but also dansup keeps running head-first into controversial takes.

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                                My favourite Dansup line is " It's coming this weekend" not sure when this weekend is supposed to come around tho.

                                From what I've seen on the loops discord he's about to open source the app and self hosted backend real soon, he's been reaching out for people to set up and test out the server code.

                                Same with federation, that's not far away, I think he wants to test how the different instances connect to each other first before the wider federation.

                                He's finally starting to look for coders to help him with the backend and app tho, so that's a good start.

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                                  Signal isn't federated; it is decentralized ^[1]^. Though, for all practical purposes, I would generally argue that it's centralized.

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                                  1. Signal-Server. signalapp. Github. Published: 2025-01-31T15:34:14.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:24Z. https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server.
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                                  it’s decentralized

                                  No it’s not. From literally your own comment:

                                  Signal relies on centralized servers

                                  For a decentralized messenger use https://delta.chat

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                                    Also an entirely different thing, email is nothing alike to IMs.

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                                    How so? Seems like just a slightly different UI for the same thing to me?

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                                      Also an entirely different thing, email is nothing alike to IMs.

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                                      E-mail is an excellent protocol for messaging, see delta.chat

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                                        My favourite Dansup line is " It's coming this weekend" not sure when this weekend is supposed to come around tho.

                                        From what I've seen on the loops discord he's about to open source the app and self hosted backend real soon, he's been reaching out for people to set up and test out the server code.

                                        Same with federation, that's not far away, I think he wants to test how the different instances connect to each other first before the wider federation.

                                        He's finally starting to look for coders to help him with the backend and app tho, so that's a good start.

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                                        And I really do appreciate that. He's doing some good stuff and really hope pixelfed and loops (and sup) continue on the momentum that they've got and gain a substantial enough Userbase that they're really enjoyable to use. Just wanted to add the extra context because I think that's relevant too!

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                                          Friendly reminder that peertube can expose your IP address.

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